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got10carz
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HELP INDENTIFY POSSIBLY VERY EARLY

Post by got10carz » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:12 pm

I have more cast cam brake levers than I care to admit here, but only 1 is like this. See for comparison the rusty one and gray one. Rusty one has no key in the end and look at hole in cam for solder/ brass. Also no hole in cam for pin. Please help date, Steve
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Kerry
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Re: HELP INDENTIFY POSSIBLY VERY EARLY

Post by Kerry » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:13 pm

May be the cost cutting one built for a few years 1919/20 from cold rolled steel.

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Mark Gregush
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Re: HELP INDENTIFY POSSIBLY VERY EARLY

Post by Mark Gregush » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:40 pm

Tony is looking for one;
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I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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1948 Ford F2 pickup


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got10carz
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Re: HELP INDENTIFY POSSIBLY VERY EARLY

Post by got10carz » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:47 pm

Kerry, general knowledge is the cast cam ended in 15 not that you can't be correct. Mark, Tony knows what I have.


John kuehn
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Re: HELP INDENTIFY POSSIBLY VERY EARLY

Post by John kuehn » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:49 pm

I believe there is a Ford ID no. on the brake handle. If there is it might help dating it.


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Re: HELP INDENTIFY POSSIBLY VERY EARLY

Post by Allan » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:17 pm

The rusty one is not very, very early, as the rivet holding the pawl is not recessed in the pawl. Neither does the link rod between the release handle and the pawl have forged eyes. It may help further identification if the handle at the top is shown.

Allan from down under.


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Re: HELP INDENTIFY POSSIBLY VERY EARLY

Post by got10carz » Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:05 am

What Allan said is true, early pawls and lift rods were pinned, not rivets.More research on my own cars revealed that the 11,13,14 were all keyed.The 13,14 both have the hole in the cam. Must just be a different supplier.

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