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Jerry VanOoteghem

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:37 am

Best I can tell, the cam gear is fiber so I think the problem lurks in the transmission area.

What?!?!?!

I think he means that he's ruled out timing gear noise based on the fact that it's fiber, and has moved on to suspecting the transmission.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Do a little more sleuthing before you do anything major, like haul the engine out. Try removing the pan & transmission inspection covers and the spark plugs. Then have someone crank the engine over by hand while you look inside of the pan and the transmission. Look & listen for anything odd. Look fo...

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The tinted visor is very cool. Just know that it won't have laminated safety glass in it, and while trailering at highway speeds, there may be a real risk of it shattering. If you use it, you should really consider replacing the glass.

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Tim Moore wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:27 pm
34 posts and all of them are eBay listings not for sale here. I would think the classified section is for what is available to purchase within the MTFCA.

The phonograph forum I participate in has a "Craigslist & eBay Finds" section just for this. Works great.

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Mark Gregush wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:34 pm
mounting brackets are the same T or TT.

Well, it was a good idea, while it lasted. Thanks Mark...

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Are the cross shaft mounts for a TT any different than for a T? Shorter maybe? I know the TT cross shaft itself is different, but the mounts too maybe???

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For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. ~ Saint Paul [/size] Nobody's perfect. ~ Joe E. Brown in Some Like It Hot [/size] The best of people have their flaws, and the worst of people have their virtues. George Washington is widely admired for his honesty and selfless service. But he...

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The absolute worse place to get history is from Wikipedia . . . Worse than online fora ?!? :shock: :shock: :lol: This is the stuff I like the forum for: self-aware humor and general kindliness. You guys get to the bottom of history while still taking it easy on one another, most of the time. As far...

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Something I'll consider for my '21 Runabout.

As an aside, I had Guinn make a special band for my Model N low speed drum. Works perfectly!

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Can they be installed through the hogshead opening, or must the hogshead be removed? (I'm talking a later T.)

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No small task to make that in the days before fiberglass!

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Were all our faults to be laid bare for the ages, many of us would fair no better in hindsight. He was who he was... a product his times, judged in our times, as if modern society is the pillar of propriety, justice and moral excellence. Not interested in revisionist whining.

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I would oil them. If they go in dry, they most likely will eventually soak up water, cause rust, etc. If they're oiled, it will repel water and prevent rust. That's my theory anyway...

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I use to rebuild my own, then had Wally do them for me, Now since Wally Retired I have Bill Lucius of New Riegel Ohio do them for me, he supplies the big vendors with them and they are to deep in the engine to mess them up and to have to do them again. 419-595 2310 is his number. Hope this helps! M...

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Jerry, “ In other words, it's a trim piece and nothing "structural".” Obviously it’s not structural. Also, it’s not sealing or containing liquid. I think it’s a faceplate/flange for either the exhaust pipe, which must exit the “dashtank””,” or part of the top of the dashtank. What I know is this is...

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Rob, "I’m still suspicious as to why this opening used wood screws, and only 4 at that, to attach it to whatever material the structure was made of." Because 4 wood screws would be all that's needed to mount a simple bezel plate, which is what this appears to be. In other words, it's a trim piece an...

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Well, if I read your post correctly, you have .0005 (half a thousands) out of round on your pins. For a loose-fitting bronze bushing, that's not a lot, but it is some. IF the pins are nice and smoooth, I wouldn't worry about a bronze bushing with enough oil clearance on those pins. One could even "...

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If you have a rim with sharp edges that you absolutely must save, one approach would be to obtain a pair of "rim savers", they are made in Australia. I got mine through the kind efforts of Andrew Brand, I don't know if he is still able to obtain them and ship them to the US. http://www.mtfca.com/di...

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Seems to suggest there is a nozzle that extends through the dash. My assumption is that the nozzle curves or angles upwards and that the oblong hole is to accommodate for that curvature or angle. The wood screw reference would suggest that this piece mounts to the wooden dash. If no such piece seems...

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David S., for Pete's sake, you are WAY overthinking this. Just close the damn valve and have at it. Just stop and think, if there is that much danger of the tank exploding, why would they be used for Acetylene lights and Oxy-Acet torches, there is WAY more heat involved with them than with sandblas...

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Thanks all. I needed that.

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I don't do mine, however, I don't think it would hurt anything. The gear oil will soon dilute the grease anyway, and since those bearings do not support the weight of the rear of the car but only a bit of weight from the differential, most of the wear is from rotation of the axle. I don't think it ...

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I certainly do.

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God bless you & yours as well Dennis.

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Haroldc30 wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:04 pm
Hello everybody. When using adjustable pinion bearing is it necessary to pin the u-joint.Thanks in advance Harold

Yes.

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Always enjoyed seeing Ed. May his soul rest in peace.

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Don't have the time read everything that's been written above, so if it's already been mentioned, than please excuse me. Both the notch/cam AND the pedal need to be replaced/repaired in order to make things work right. One is no good without the other. As suggested above, using a new notch/cam as a ...

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Measuring how much end play you have is how you begin to determine if something needs to be done about it. I guess I wouldn't want to see more than maybe .015"/.020", but then I don't run a magneto, so it's not as critical. Other opinions may/will vary. Some engines will run well with lots more end ...

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Allan wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:52 pm
... there is no water jacket under the seats.

Allan from down under.

Yes, there is.

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Mack, I tried modifying my speedster rear spring and nearly got into a nasty accident as a result. As others have learned as well, removing spring leaves, or swapping them around as you have done, is not a wise move. If you want reversed eyes on the rear, that should cause no trouble, (it also won't...

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Sure I'll buy another crank as long as you want to sponsor me, not going to happen with my budget. When I picked it up the tech put it back in the mag machine and showed me the linear surface cracks, he said he found no radial cracks of any kind. I surmise they've been there for 107 years so why ch...

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What it is, I do not know. What it is not, is a Ford.

(Don't let the Model T steering wheel fool you.)

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Is it just me, or does the second crank journal photo seem to show a crack running diagonally across the journal surface?

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Something else to consider. A worn pedal cam will force you to adjust your Kevlar lining too tight. With the reduced actuation from the worn cam, leaving the proper lining clearance will not allow the band to grab when the pedal is depressed, conversely, a good band engagement will only be had at th...

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DHort wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:14 pm
If you are concerned about $50 on an $850 radiator, you have a problem.

And that's why I hardly come here anymore...

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KimDobbins wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:28 pm
Thanks Jerry, I made most of the missing parts off those drawings. There is still a fair amount of work to do on the carb.

Kris would be pleased! What a guy he was...

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This is such a wonderful thread! Congratulations Carson! Very happy for you!

There's not a lot on the internet that makes me happy anymore, but this thread most definitely does!!!

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Stan, Wayland owns this car. He hasn't done much transmission work so he doesn't know the answer to the clearance issue. The B used 3 different carbs. Schebler, Holley and Kingston. I found a letter in the archives dated 1904 stating that all 3 carbs had been tested. The Holley was the best perform...

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Here's one of my personal favorites, "Do not bring a calculator anywhere near your stack of restoration receipts."

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I have never considered that the gap in question was ever a problem. How does it hurt anything?

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The axle you have there is from a TT, or "Ton Truck". It takes a larger Hyatt than a Model T rear end I believe.

Since it's a low speed affair, try researching Berliss bearings. http://www.berliss.com/

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Drill rod, as previously mentioned, should be ok. I would also think of Thomson Shafting. It has a very hard outer shell, (Rc 60/65 case), for wear resistance, and a softer interior hardness, for excellent toughness. Don't know what machining you'll need to do however, so the very hard case might be...

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The problem with altering sleeve thickness, axle diameter & adding shim to compensate for worn Hyatt bearings, is that Hyatt rollers do NOT wear evenly, without taper. When using a tapered roller, because of the differing circumference of each end, one end will tend to "skid" on the axle & sleeve an...

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The new sleeves can be a tad thick. I haven't used any new ones myself, but have heard of tight assemblies several times w/new sleeves. Just wondering out loud if the new sleeves might not be perfectly round after assembly. Either way, I believe a small amount of use will get things settled in in sh...

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Merry Christmas to all!!!!

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Don't worry a whole lot about running rich until you solve the misfire problem, (although the solution for both may be one in the same). A misfiring ignition, (versus carburetor or fuel issues), will in itself cause the engine to run rich. If a plug is not firing every time, as it should, fuel will ...

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While the commutator might be clean, might it also be worn out? What style do you use?

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The water cooled exhaust manifold indicates that it' s boat motor. Possibly a sailboat motor?

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That quick change tool holder is about 1 size too large for that lathe. Not that it can't work, it will just be more cumbersome than it has to be. And, due to its large size compared to the compound it mounts on, it will add to the overhang that Tim refers to. Aside from any danger of breaking anyth...

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Mark Gregush wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:16 pm
Stan I was thinking along the lines of worn case too. Jerry it would move the ring gear the wrong way.

Mark,

Yes, it definitely would. As I mentioned, it would be the wrong thing to do. That said, I like the other suggestions here better!

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The thickness is somewhat close to that of a typical bronze thrust washer. Could this be to take up the gap of a missing thrust washer? Obviously, it would be the wrong thing to do, but an unknowing past tinkerer may have seen it as a solution to an odd gap that he couldn't explain, seeing as how a ...

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Kohnke Rebabbitting wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:49 pm
One more thing, you do NOT need 3 Wrenches, on lifters, with a lock nut.

Hertm.

Correct. And, you do NOT need to cut down your tappet guides in the engine block in order to adjust your tappets.

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Roar_Sand wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:27 pm
Could it be "Root interference lock thread", as used on the Mopar "leaning tower of power"?

Roar,

Yes, that's what it is. Trade name is Spiralock. There's probably others too. https://www.stanleyengineeredfastening. ... /spiralock

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So, who started the whole "Drive around and Eat Stuff" thing anyway? Well, it was inspired by a 3 Stooges episode, "False Alarms". Curly's would-be girlfriend states, "Let's go places and eat things". At 11:43 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3+stooges+false+alarms+&&view=detail&mid=7D6FC3F70E9D...

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Keith,

Thanks for the update! It helps us all when we read, "the rest of the story". Glad that you're on the right track.

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Something like this may work for you: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-Acetylene-Regulator-VGS360/392502094491?hash=item5b62f2aa9b:g:lVkAAOSwyXNZ7SXV This is pretty close to what I use. This one is a little big/bulky though: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ESAB-Purox-R-27-15-025-Acetylene-Regulator/39250209...

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That won't do what you want Marty. The pressure to your lights should be nearly zero, but not quite. This gauge's needle will not even move off the peg at those low pressures. You don't need a gauge, what you need is a regulator. There were regulators made in the Model T era, and those that you can ...

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Check the cutout?

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".... it sure did kick back multiple times ...." Aside from any starter troubles, fix this first! Even if your stater engaged perfectly, it'll be ruined again when the engine kicks back on it. Ignoring the bendix itself, how easily does the starter motor shaft turn by hand? An engine kicking back ag...

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Dennis, "What keeps 2 wrench valve lifters from backing off?" To answer your question: Not much. Have had a few friends with those, and the adjustments backed off. Yes, there is a locking method, but in what I've seen, it's not as guaranteed as the lock nut. I've never seen one of the screws as pict...

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Was an awesome tour, as always! A pleasure to meet you George. Sure hope you can join us again sometime. Also had fun talking with several other forum members. The bridges, scenery & people and second to none!

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Thanks so much to all who worked hard to make sure there would be an Ohio Jamboree this year! My cousin and I had a great time, as always! A great bunch of people and a great tour.

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20w-50, in a well broken-in engine.

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Yes there is Paul! BJ Miller and a few other folks picked it at the last moment. I believe it's in Heath, OH. I guess I better make sure for certain, since I plan to be there!

Get a hold of BJ and see if there's still a way you can join in!!

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I've always attributed that misalignment to the body being spread open a bit. Meaning, the dimension from right side to left side arm rest has spread open, or that the right side body panel leans out at the top a bit too much. Given that, I think that it's not so much a door problem as it is a body ...

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It's a one-way clutch. Prevents the wheel from jerking out of your hands on rough roads. In other words, you can steer the wheels, but the wheels cannot steer you. Sounds good on the face of it, but it also means that after a turn, YOU must return the wheels to a straight ahead position, instead of ...

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I learned a long time ago if water flows through the radiator, in a car, too fast it doesn’t have enough time to cool down. I don’t know that this would play a role in a Ts cooling system but in a pressurized system with a pump it sure does. I wonder if it’s possible in a T ? Then wouldn't it also ...

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... but, you still need to check for twist.

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Congratulations Tim! See you in the Soo too!

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It's an aftermarket carburetor for a Model T.

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Lots of well meaning overthinking here. First, by your description of the oil, "brown color," it's not even dirty yet, which makes sense at 300 miles. It's dirty when it's black. Second, you don't need to do anything other than just remove the drain plug, let it drain and drip for a while, replace t...

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Paper gaskets allow straight manifolds to warp, as there are no gland rings to restrain the movement of the manifold when it's hot.

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D.Yoder wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:16 pm
I change oil each spring. Just keep adding through the year

Me too. Except I don't drive anywhere NEAR the miles Dean does!

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I can certainly understand leaving the springs off, but do NOT skip the step of wiring the bolts in place. To do so, you'll need bolts with wire holes drilled through the heads. Do NOT substitute split lock washers in place of the wire.

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My dad used the same drums/shoes/wheel cylinders on my Fordor. Except, he made new backing plates, heavy enough for the job. He also used the GM parking brake parts, actuated by the T parking brake.

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My wife & I were on the tour. The folks on PEI did an awesome job! We had a wonderful time. Best seafood anywhere! (Where can I get a lobster roll in Michigan!?!?!?) Nicest people you'll ever want to find. Really, we hated to leave.

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Are you using the correct water outlet? There's a high head and a low head style.

Yes, pictures would help...

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Had lunch there about 20 years ago. Cool place!!!

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It seems that before the #1 rod went bad, you had no idea that your timing gear backlash was excessive or a problem. That being the case, I would install a new timing gear, a rebabitted #1 rod, and go for a ride with no more thoughts of timing gear spacing or backlash. Generally speaking, unless you...

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Been parking overnight at motels for 32 years with the T. So far, zero issues. I used to never bother even taking the key out, but I heard of somebody having the key stolen. That would be inconvenient... so I take the key out now.

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Always a true gentleman. It was a pleasure to know him. May your soul rest in peace and may perpetual light shine upon you.

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I add a 1/2 quart of automatic trans fluid to my oil. No chatter.

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If the usual T suppliers don't have the red rubber hose for your lights, then try Restoration Supply Co. They have 2 grades I believe. One is just like the original stuff, (supposedly), and the other is also pretty nice.

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This looks like an incredible deal! How has this not sold yet???

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Be sure the zerk doesn't extend too far into the housing such that it interferes with the spring. Other than that, looks like a good enough idea.

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Thanks Dan, I thought about that, and a friend in our Model T club (KCChuggers) reminded me that even in an axle break, if you had disc brakes, the calipers would prevent the wheel from coming off. I resisted the thought of disc brakes... but then, Frank drove home the wisdom, "safety trumps authen...

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Ok - next issue. It looks like the thrust washers for the rear end are supposed to have shallow pins to keep the steels in place. There seems to be only 1 pin still intact in the entire assembly! All others are worn flush. Anyone else had this problem, and is there an easy way to deal with it? Scot...

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I've used both styles with no preference one way or the other. Most important, is to be sure they're in good condition, with NO cracks around the bases of the pins/tabs.

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I know this subject has came up quite a few times but, the ol gray cells don't work as good as they used to. I'm getting close to getting my 26 coupe running after 50 years. A neighbor said I should use oil that has zinc in it, which I suspect that most oils used today don't have. He suggested goin...

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It's time to reline...

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Sounds like you're dangerously near the end on your low band adjustment. Take the trans cover off and have a look at the band ends. Is there any lining left there? The area that wears the greatest is the band ends, so if it's gone, or very thin, it's time to replace.

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I have always understood how a differential works and that the wheel with the least traction will spin, but that is not my question. Given the SAME traction at both wheels, will one ( the “driving wheel”) exert more force than the other in propelling the vehicle? If this is truly a “wives tale”, I ...

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Some folks thread a pipe tap into the old babbitt bushing, then install a pipe plug. A long steel rod is then used to drive out the bushing. Just be SURE, that the long rod is of adequately small diameter to pass by the internal heads of the rivets that attach the ball end to the torque tube. Some h...

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Fairly normal.

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If they are made correctly, (big assumption I guess), the new bolts should already have those grooves. Original bolts had them from new.

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Not necessarily trying to dissuade you from flushing your radiator as it's not a bad thing to do, however, I'm wondering if you're wanting to do this to solve some issue, or just because it seems like you should? Myself, if it's all currently working well, I would tend to leave it alone. Once flushe...

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To answer your question, yes, .017 clearance in your drive shaft bushing is way too much. You need a new bushing. Also, inspect your drive shaft in the area the runs in that bushing. If it too is worn, more than a thousandth or two, a new bushing will not be the total answer, since a new bushing may...

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If by "unwrapping an Egyptian mummy" you mean that the covered was wound around the bow in a spiraling manner, then it was not original covering and perhaps then, not an original bow.

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Marty,

They basically don't care what you're driving. Just have all your documents in place. However, you maybe should tell your insurance company you'll be travelling in Canada.

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I believe you would have to run an engine on starting fluid for some length of time, (greater that just a start-up), to have any bad effects from it. Every once in a great while I'll use some. No problems. Many years ago, in the absence of starting fluid, I used model airplane fuel to get and engine...

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