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Jerry VanOoteghem

You really need a new starter ring gear!!!

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The Facebook poster who didn't agree with my answer, referred me to the Montana 500 website regarding engine modifications. My answer to him, was that I thought the original question was involving an engine in a Model T that wasn't going to be raced or that the engine builder wasn't seeking ultimat...

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Might have been beneficial before T cranks commenced with 100 years of fatigue life. If you did it on the ground journals, won't you just have to regrind them to get back the surface finish, thereby removing the compression layer?

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You might also come across "NIB", meaning "new in box".

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Not meant to be an inclusive rational - just a perspective Its is the seller that has hired someone to manage & market the sale of items that they no longer want and negotiated the fees involved. The seller then is totally responsible for any fees that they need to pay the auctioneer. True, but the...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I believe it uses a special head bolt, with a stud coming out of the top of it that goes through the rocker cover.

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https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18388 I don't understand the 10% "buyer's premium". It just cuts down what I'm willing to bid. That's because you're a reasonable person. I have been attending antique phonograph auctions for over 30 years, all by the same auction house. Just a few y...

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Always interested in the wellbeing of our Model T "brothers", (& "sisters" too!), no matter what topic it's posted under. Prayers are on the way! Thanks!

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Charles K. Hyde would know. He probably tells us here: https://www.amazon.com/Dodge-Brothers-M ... 300&sr=8-1

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Susanne wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:42 pm
You know, if it was always easy to crank, then all of the sudden became "stiff" or difficult, you may have other internal issues such as a slipped piston pin or hung up band...

The OP states, "It has always been difficult, but seems to be getting worse."

Jerry VanOoteghem

Scrape out as much as you can right now. Then put it back together and see how it performs in warm weather. Oh, also use antifreeze. Although some will disagree, I think what you have is what's to be expected with water soluble oil.

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Thanks, Dan. I think part of my problem was/is the terminology. You referred to the larger, painted steel piece as the channel and the thinner brass, nickeled piece as the strip. What piece part is the "glass clips?" Is there any tape or buffer between the strip and glass? Is there any tape or buff...

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Check to be sure the leak is really from the hose connection. I've chased a stubborn leak in the past, only to discover it started from higher up, on the radiator tank. The coolant slowly travelled down and settled in the seam at the top of the hose, making the leak appear to begin there.

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Hey Jerry, in order I will answer your questions. I have had the car for 10 years, and in general, she can be hand cranked, but I feel like I am fighting a lot of compression. Obviously, she doesn't like the cold and is much easier to start in the summer months. 1. It is much easier to crank when y...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I believe 27" would be the size, IF you're using all stock parts of the correct model year, (lower pulley, fan bracket, fan hub, etc.), and no water pump.

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I had some free time this morning, so I removed the windshield frames. There was a gap between the top and bottom glass. The bottom is just a piece of plexiglass. It appears to be too short. I am thinking that, maybe, I should replace both the bottom and the top glass. Does anyone have the correct ...

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Tomdoc, Lots of questions come to mind. But first, the theory you got about what may be causing it, is just not possible. At least as stated. Questions... 1. Is the car just as hard to crank if you put the car in high gear and jack up the rear wheels? 2. How often do you check the oil level in the e...

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Can you elaborate on what exactly "tinning butter" is? [/size] Here you go, Jerry. IMG_5824 copy.JPG IMG_5825 copy.JPG I bought it to use with body solder and mistakenly figured it would be OK for soldering mag coils, not realizing that it's corrosive to copper. It's not OK for that, as our friend ...

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Charles J wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:34 am
I think some people need to start their own post instead of getting on mine

??? I thought this was Tom Rootlieb's thread.

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Dan Hatch wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:36 pm
Here is link to gas tank repair
https://www.gastankrenu.com/

Exactly! I suggested them weeks ago....

Jerry VanOoteghem

WARNING: DON'T DO IT! Last night I received an email from a forum member who was kind enough to give me a heads-up on what I had done wrong. I'm posting it here because I don't want anybody to see what I did ignorantly and think it's a good idea: I cannot overstate the fact that tinning butter is h...

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If and when I do decide to sell, I will look for a club member who would like to buy it, and offer it for a reasonable price. Norm Norm, At least in my mind, when the time is right, my ideal situation would be to identify a young member who would appreciate it, who would not expect it, and to simpl...

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Terry, I have always been of the opinion that a person's ownership of any item gives that person the right to set the price for it. If a certain price is what it's worth to them , then who am I to say otherwise. That's the price at which they'd let it go. A price that's way too high is probably a pr...

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I hope you'll all pardon my uninformed advice, given I've never rebuilt a coil ring. However, in my experience with other things electrical, my experience has been that more insulation is better than less insulation.

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If you decide to keep that gear, make sure that the cam nut is tight. I have had two fiber gear failures in T engines. Both were rebuilt in the '70s so probably newer gears and maybe the bad ones, but both were also loose and appeared to have been loose for some time. I'm sure the looseness contrib...

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The Phone sure works good, That means talking on it, I do not text either. They used to have a telegraph, (texting). Then they went to a great invention, called the telephone, then they went to texting, (telegraph). Whod a thunk it? I can not figure out why so many Model T people are so modern in c...

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Also a proud member of the flip-phone club!

I will text, but very minimally, It's cumbersome to text on a flip phone, which is why I like it! Keeps things short and essential. No long, frivolous cutsie messages.

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Got mine as well. A first class job!! Thanks Tim!

Still would like an original, (or reproduction), Ford version. Maybe one day....

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I don't know Ed, (the seller), personally, but I have always held him in high regard. I'm sure this will work out. Just a cross up in communications I think.

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A couple of nice photos of my Touring, on a past Indiana Covered Bridge Tour, taken by my buddy's wife.

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I have a Cylent gear in my '25 Touring. It's been there for 50 years plus and I don't plan on replacing it anytime soon. I would NEVER use one of the new ones however. I shredded 2 already and caught a 3rd just prior to disaster.

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Interesting that race car #1, (number on the radiator), still has its crank. Wonder if there's some sort of chain drive back down to the old crank hole. Hardly seems feasible. Also, interesting that the spindles, or at least the spindle arms, are swapped around, with the tie rod out front. Could be ...

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Some folks straighten axle tubes by welding on one side. The thought being, that the weld will cause the metal to shrink on that side, thereby pulling the tube straight. Not sure if the weld you show was done with that intent or not. The rough bore in the tube is pretty much normal. It's a nice fit ...

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Original Smith wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:33 am
I have crows in the trees in my back yard. They are a pain!

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Certainly not the original technique, but I sometimes clearcoat nut & bolts to prevent corrosion. Really though, most of my T's automatically distribute a preservative layer of oil onto the entire chassis.

Jerry VanOoteghem

How far are you from a gas station?

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Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:51 am
Kim and Larry live only about a mile apart as the crow flies. Of course, not many people travel by crow.

I love that Steve. Can't wait to use it sometime!

(I'll give you credit for it though

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Jerry VanOoteghem

What complicates the removal, even after the hub plate is removed, is the fact that you can only support the spokes outside of the 6-1/2" perimeter of the hub flange. When supported that way, you create a fulcrum point for the spokes. Pushing on the hub, causes the spokes to rock on that fulcrum and...

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This is what I know so far. The Lucas tires (olympic) are nylon cord vs the more expensive tires are polyester. The nylon cord tires ride a little harder but are strong and give as good a service as the polyester. It is recommended that polyester tires be pressurized to 60 to 65 pounds. The olympic...

Jerry VanOoteghem

The hub plate can be a real bear! The method in the link above is the way to do it!

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I sure wouldn't do it if you had the 14mm plug hole option. I'd be somewhat less concerned with the pipe thread plug holes, but I still wouldn't lift it that way myself. My guess is, it would be okay, but why guess when it's so easy to choose another method. Cast iron heads, no problem. I've lifted ...

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Bill, I have never actually measured an axle shaft or a housing with the axle bearing the weight of a car, so I'm willing to be educated. But the loads imposed by your car as it stands right now may be giving you erroneous readings. Most of the time when people measure axle shafts or housings for s...

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Bill, While nothing is impossible, I would think it's fairly rare to have the axel tube bent downwards at its outer end, causing the shaft to sit above its centerline. I would think that housings get bent due to the spring bottoming out and smacking the center of the axel housing, making the whole a...

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While I agree that Original Smith, Joe Bell, Tim Wrenn and Art Mirtes are great contributors to the craft, I must add that Steve Jelf has been an invaluable resource since I acquired my T two years ago. Thanks, Steve. There are others who have given their time and help freely... Norman Kling, Allen...

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I'm nearly certain that Ron Patterson has done this testing and mentioned the results in the past. Hopefully, he'll see your posting and have your answers.

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Pressuring a T radiator is never a good idea. As others state, it's not made for that. If you don't actually blow the tank open, you'll greatly distort it. Would be even worse, and more expensive an error, on a brass radiator. That said, never let a radiator shop pressure test your radiator either. ...

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Is your drawing really correct in that it shows the axle sitting above the housing centerline? A bent housing would typically cause the axel to sit below the housing centerline. Also, it appears that your inner seal is installed as you take your measurement. At some amount of deflection, the seal wi...

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DickC wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:56 pm
Colin--Someone said that the tires are not rubber but a synthetic that wears well but does not grip as well. Stopping etc. Dick C.

I'm pretty sure that all tires are made from synthetic rubber.

Jerry VanOoteghem

I only use water from melted Antarctic glaciers. Anything else will cause your Model T to explode. :) Seriously though, I know some parts of the country have water with high mineral content that can really screw things up. However, I think that in most large metropolitan areas, (Flint, MI excluded),...

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No, one can't tell if they are two piece valves by the two dimples in the top unless you can see they are cast iron heads, a lot of replacement one piece valves had the dimples for grinding the valves right up into the 1970's+, lifting the valve or looking in the port will tell you. On a couple of ...

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...there's no way to keep weight of the magnets even. [/size] Is there anything wrong with picking magnets that are all within a few grams and grinding a little off the ends of the heavier ones to equalize them before you charge and install them? There's probably nothing wrong with that, but why bo...

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The little indented areas on the valve top tell you they are original valves that were made in two separate pieces, and the tops were stamped in to attach the mushroom to the stem, using those two holes for that purpose. To add to Jim's observation, the original "two piece" valves should be replace...

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Jeepbone1 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:55 pm
More pictures.

If I understand the assembly you've shown, I would suggest adding a tight fitting "doughnut" between the black spacer plate/adapter and the hub nose. It will help the hub to support the wheel without putting all the load on the bolts that sandwich it all together.

Cool idea btw!

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So sorry to read this Tim. May his soul rest in peace.

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Well, this is one way to get around the problem of no new gas tanks being available.

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Going to bore my engine for new pistons.It measures .006 over standard will .020 Overs clean up or should I go ahead and get .030 pistons thanks philip It all depends on how bad the bores are now. You say you're .006 over right now, but how much taper and out-of-round are you? Did you measure all u...

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Very generous. What a nice story!

(PS, can I be your nephew too?

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Jerry VanOoteghem

I love the cars we call Model T's. They all have their own unique personality. I've been trying to get to know this 1912 delivery for about 10 months now. He has not let me know his secret yet. I know I will understand him soon and we will be friends. I have got some really good suggestions on here...

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I recall learning about “Fordlandia” on the Science channel during an episode of “Mysteries of the Abandoned” entitled “Amazon Ghost Town”. No doubt it will reappear as a repeat. I believe the Fordlandia project was abandoned due to Ford’s attempt to micromanage and control every aspect of the live...

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Here is a set I have, it looks like a Marquette brand. What year would these go on? Bumper Model T 26-27 #1.jpg Bumper Model T 26-27 #2.jpg Bumper Model T 26-27 #3.jpg Bumper Model T 26-27 #4.jpg IMG_3143 copy.jpg They would probably look appropriate on anything 1925ish or later. The front bumper l...

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Thank you Jonah. May you and yours have a beautiful Christmas and may the joy of Christmas be with you all year long! (Same to the rest of you!

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It was amazing to me, what hardships people endured to work in that setting. Went beyond just dedication it seems.

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Jerry, the land which takes the rear main bolt heads is machined with a really sharp right angle against the back web. This creates a perfect stress riser. On three of the blocks I have witnessed, including one 1923 model, the cracks emanate from this machining and work out from there, So the bolts...

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Moxie26 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:09 pm
....If a Model T owner does not want to use motorcycle oil that's fine, as long as they use the non detergent 30 weight oil .

??? Isn't motorcycle oil a detergent oil?

I use whatever oil I wish to, is that fine too? Sure hope so.

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Eric, I wish I could see photos of the broken out rear web in that 12 block. That would make 4 early blocks I know about with that same problem. Broken crankshaft + broken block on 3 of them. The fourth was a severely cracked block either side of the rear main web. I believe many of these failures,...

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Merry Christmas to all!!!!!

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Whenever I see a post like this I always have to ask Do you experiment on your “Modern” the same way and why. Charlie, The Model T, being incredibly simple and basic in its design, seems to present an "empty canvas" to those who like to "innovate" and "improve". It just invites tinkering. Part of i...

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In Michigan they will issue a title based upon a 1) bill of sale & 2) appraisal. They will run the VIN to see if it shows up. No inspection required. My 1952 Army Jeep had no title and that’s how we did it. Michigan doesn’t keep records of inactive titles over 15 years old. Suggestion, visit one of...

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Email sent!!

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I had trouble with a gas tank on a 1924 Buick. I sent it to Gas Tank Renu, https://www.gastankrenu.com/, they did an awesome job! If you go that route however, tell them NOT to coat the outside of the tank and NOT to coat the gas cap or outlet threads! I believe it cost me about $200. Cheap, if you ...

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James, the engine has no noticeable end-play. This car was built and sat for 35 years without being moved. When I got it I had very little compression. 20lbs. I pulled the head and the oil pan inspection cover. I honed the cylinders, installed new pistons and rings along with new valves and valves ...

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Joe, You probably know this already, but I've been told there were 2 styles of Sure Mikes. A "regular" one and a "heavy duty". I've also been told that the lighter ones are very prone to breaking, while the heavier ones are much better. I have a heavy one, but have never thought to use it. For one t...

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My guess is that any company that could easily make such a thing will run away if you used the name "Gas Tank".

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Soluble oil is not a coolant, any more than motor oil is a coolant. Yes, in the machine trades it's referred to as a "coolant", but that's a machining coolant, not an engine coolant. And, it's only a machining coolant when it's mixed with water, (or if it comes pre-mixed), not when it's just plain o...

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ThreePedalTapDancer wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:57 pm
Is anybody going to be carrying the torch with the making of gas tanks, or is that another part that’s no longer going to be made anymore?

I know there's a shortage, but has the supplier stated that they'll no longer be produced by them?

Jerry VanOoteghem

Ford supplied split bumbers, (bumperettes), for 26/27 Canadian cars.

I owned a pair that I sold a few years ago.

Jerry VanOoteghem

The only thing I would add, is try soluble oil instead of coolant....coolant is made to reduce heat in pressurized cooling systems (like in modern cars). Nothing on a Model T or TT for that matter is pressurized other than the tires. Soluble Oil is made to reduce heat in non-pressurized cooling sys...

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Am I seeing the remains of paint on the inside of the cast iron and top of the inside of the bowl? Painting these parts is a no-no as dissolved paint plugs some passages. I would also suggest that you check the actual fuel level in the bowl while you have it off the car (1/4" clear tygon tube attac...

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Be very suspicious of your wishbone if it's the "over the axle style". What you describe is not a "small" problem. ;) From a recent posting of mine.... I test drove my friend's 1914 just after he bought it. Seemed fine until I made a left hand turn. Both front wheels swung hard to the left, nearly c...

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Many years ago, a friend of mine did that. Don't know just how much he removed, but it had to be a lot to make any difference, (real or imagined). Turns out, unknown to him, one of the cast-in columns that sit above each combustion dome had rusted away. That, coupled with the greatly reduced materia...

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Since you're under a time constraint, you don't appear to have the time to try this, then try that, then buy this part, then buy that part, etc. I'd order all the pieces that the suppliers offer for the vaporizer & install them all.

Check/replace the intake manifold gaskets as well.

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To me, it sounds as if you have an intake/vacuum leak. I've suggested this to you in the past, with regard to the intake manifold gaskets, so I'm confident that you have checked that out and eliminated that possibility. I'm now wondering if the mounting flange on your intake manifold is flat. Years ...

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Coolant in the cylinders? Bad head gasket or cracked block or cracked head.

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Do yourself the favor of either buying one that's been rebuilt, or having one rebuilt. Rewound armatures, new condensers and freshly charged magnets make all the difference. Even with one that is original and works great, you still run the risk of throwing off the old armature windings and having th...

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Join the Model T Ford Club International. The back of the membership card has this handy dandy reference!

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If that car has a battery and a generator, it should have a battery horn. There are only two possible reasons the horn would cause the car to stop running. One would be a very weak magneto which is right on the edge, or something in the horn circuit which is grounding the magneto when you honk the ...

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Billy Vrana wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:49 am
Tires and tubes are doing fine but the air is showing through

Tonight we're settin' the woods on fire!

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TRDxB2 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:02 pm
Jonah, suggest you post some pictures of the wheel so others can see what you have.

Good idea.

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Barry Loucks wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:16 pm
Did I ever tell you the story about Pouporri while I was in Ireland? It’s not for this forum. It makes Sears catalog and corn cobs tame.

Barry

Sounds like a nice story to share the next time we're having a nice steak at Culhane's!

Jerry VanOoteghem

I was told by an uncle he preferred the “harness section” of the Sears catalog. The pages were rougher, i.e. not glossy like the clothing and housewares section. They worked better. Barry Barry, The voice of experience for sure... Dad also had directions on the proper use of corn cobs, for the same...

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I've been using all three holes in a drill chuck for 60 years after I was shown that trick by a local weldor/blacksmith. If you notice, the key can be tightened just a bit more in each hole. Try it Jerry, you'll like it. :) Dave I will try it, but I've got to admit, I don't really have much trouble...

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The problem is she would need to "bear" all before putting the dress on.... To bring it into topic (kinda sorta)... I always found it interesting that the Sears catalog in the early 20's sold rolls of "crepe paper" as toilet tissue... not that it puts the "T" in TP, but I have to stretch it somehow...

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Merry Christmas Tim!

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I was at the first one, several years ago. VERY cool event, but wow, was it ever HOT, 105F in an open T. If you haven't been to one, don't miss it. The museum alone is worth the trip.

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Is her name Charmin?

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There may be a misunderstanding on the crankshaft front pulley area. The crankshaft diameter is the same all years. It is the pulley, at the fan belt diameter, that changed. The small pulley for the narrow nose pan but used in early wide nose pans into around 1919 and the large pulley for the wide ...

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Dennis Prince wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:50 pm
One important thing to know about using a drill chuck is to tighten all 3 of the jaws and the drill bit won't spin in the chuck, it was years of frustration before I figured that out. Just my 2 cents worth.

How do you not tighten all 3 jaws? They all work in unison.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Are you trying to say that you have no neutral?

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It's looking happy! Thanks!

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You may have trouble bringing the motor mount arms past the firewall unless it's removed.

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