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Jerry VanOoteghem

There are dozens of scenarios, real & hypothetical, of how seat belts could save you.... or injure you. Bottom line is this, seat belts are NOT stand-alone safety devices. They are one element of a safety system. They, and the cars they are installed in, are designed to work together, as a system. M...

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perry kete wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:37 am

How do you date a TT?
I usually buy it flowers and take it to dinner!

Oh come on now you that was coming!

I'm so proud of you! I wanted to say, "buy it a drink", but lost my nerve. Just like when dating girls.... oh well.

Jerry VanOoteghem

So sorry to read this. What a great guy he was. I don't think I've ever seen him without a smile on his face. Condolences to Dave and the rest of the family. May his soul rest in peace and may perpetual light shine upon him.

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the answer to your question is tell them to put the shaft in a swivel vise using v blocks. swivel the vice until the taper indicates straight with the machine ways. use a 1\4 woodruff key cutter and key it .135 deep. philip That's not the right way to pick it up Phillip. If you do that, when you're...

Jerry VanOoteghem

the answer to your question is tell them to put the shaft in a swivel vise using v blocks. swivel the vice until the taper indicates straight with the machine ways. use a 1\4 woodruff key cutter and key it .135 deep. philip That's not the right way to pick it up Phillip. If you do that, when you're...

Jerry VanOoteghem

"I am afraid that this might change the character of the car an devalue it. Would it actually do that?" It certainly would for me. That being said, if I wanted to buy a car that had such a conversion, I would still go ahead and buy it. I would then make it my first order of business to put it back t...

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The top & bottom ones in each photo are for NRS Fords.

They look like very nice ones too!

Jerry VanOoteghem

That tool may do what you want, but really, it's an upholstery material stretcher. Here's one: https://www.amazon.com/US-Art-Supply-Canvas-Gripper/dp/B00PSKMUFA/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=upholstery+pliers&qid=1593903526&sr=8-7 Here's a much nicer one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PSKPDMC/ref=sspa...

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John E. Guitar wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:56 pm
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John E.,

If you'll pardon me for being off-topic, Is your profile photo a picture of Joe Maphis?

Jerry VanOoteghem

I'm going to join others here and say that's a bad idea. By removing additional steel and reducing the cross sectional area of the axle end, you're greatly reducing it's strength. Having two key ways, 180 degrees apart is also just poor practice anyway. The only thing I would even begin to consider,...

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Jeff,

I assume it has the Ford logo cast on it?

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Probably made of Bronze (copper and tin) which is much harder and stronger than brass (copper and zinc), although different metals can be used in bronze such as aluminium and manganese and even a bit of zinc too. Brass is used in lamps and fittings in the T and is quite soft and malleable. (Bronze ...

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Yes, absolutely return it! Probably should have contacted Chaffin's before the forum and they would have put things right already.

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Linus,

Do a search for Tolex on Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tolex&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

Is this what you want?

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When you begin to bog down in high, just let up on the gas and push the clutch pedal all the way down into low, then accelerate.

Jerry VanOoteghem

What is and where can I get the proper driver? Ignacio, You can see in your old bushing how the driver jammed itself in for what appears to be about 3/32" at the one end. This is what made the bushing so tight, even after it was split. The driver being rammed into the end of the bushing expanded it...

Jerry VanOoteghem

As previously stated, the driver you had WAS too small for the job. Had it been correct for removing the bushing, you very likely would have driven it out with a 5 pound sledge in about 6 wacks. The small diameter shoulder of an undersize driver actually peens the bushing into the bore and makes it...

Jerry VanOoteghem

It was a beautiful tour! Great weather, great roads & great people!!!

Jerry VanOoteghem

Thanks for the info....my thought was... I have a 26 fordor, with a new berg radiator.. the fan has been being a problem, so I thought I'll just take it off which creates another problem, the belt to turn the pump, well I here some say that should go...... I dont know what to think, maybe I'll take...

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Looks as though the "Bendix Gear" is engaged in the flywheel all f the time. That raises a concern about longevity. The Bendix gear is actuated by a solenoid, as per a modern starter. The pic shows it at rest with the Bendix retracted. So, if this is retracted, that must mean that the gear engages ...

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Looks like there is plenty of bushing there. The indent is from your driver tool. I’d say that either you have the wrong driver or it’s poorly made. The outside diameter of the driver you are using is too small. Adam has it! Your driver tool diameter is too small and it's forcing itself into the bu...

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All T's are made that way. Not a problem.

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When you're shifting from low to high, the engine is running the slowest and therefore your magneto output is at its lowest. It's also the time when you need all 4 cylinders participating or you get bucking & jerking. To me, it would appear that your magneto is getting very marginal in its output, h...

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Wow ! Did anyone read my earlier post ? Just skip over the obvious . . . I did, and you are correct - 100%. Why no one else mentions it is beyond me. While it's definitely a factor in this conversation, it's not the only issue. Such as the apparent gap between the wishbone ends and the spring perch...

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The last new lawnmower I bought, came with an empty gas tank, (as you would expect), and with no oil in the engine. Pretty much the same as a Model T 100 years ago I guess and most likely for all the same reasons.

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RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:54 pm
This is a Ford Z tool - it's used to bend the pedals cold and would place your reverse pedal centered between the other two as it should be !

Well, ok, I'll agree with the reverse pedal needing to be contered.

Jerry VanOoteghem

I don't see anything wrong with them the way they are.

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Let me be the second here to wish you a happy birthday!!! Happy to read that you're going strong!

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Bud, That's interesting! I once saw a Hupmobile 20 with a T steering gear box fitted into its steering column, under the hood, way down near the pitman arm. For what it's worth, I haven't figured out how to post pics here either. Probably could get it figured out, but don't have the patience... :roll:

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Jon, When you say 2 knocks, then an interval, then 2 knocks, etc., it makes me think that you have a couple of bad teeth on your ring gear. If the trouble were in your bendix, it would knock at even intervals, (e.g. * * * * *, versus **....**....**....**). If you remove the bendix and have someone c...

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Scott, Calling it, reverting to 100 year old technology is one way of putting it but in saying 100 year old technology that still works today is another. How may of us have pulled down modern engines that are running on the bronze/brass/ copper alloy of a slipper shall and the crank is still in spe...

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Plus the wishbone looks to be installed upside down. If it is ,flipping it would change the gap on the drag link and set the proper caster on the spindles. It appears the spindles are straight up and down or slightly leaning forward on top. Just something to think about. I believe you're correct De...

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Bud,

Not sure who supplied what or when, but the bill-of-sale for my Grandfather's '26 Fordor had a separate charge on it for "Gas & Oil". So, I don't know who supplied it, but I know who paid for it.

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Great presentation. Thank you Trent. And Thank you Rob for making it happen. We had a mini tornado here last Wednesday and I had no power to attend the meeting. Now I am caught up and look forward to the next one. I could've driven to Jerry Van's but I wasn't invited. We have standards to uphold. B...

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I was thinking I should replace the ball cap(4th main) to try to reduce leaking down the drive shaft. It appears that you can get 4 different sizes of ball caps. However, the part of the cap that is babbitted is about 2 1/2 inches inside the hogshead. How do you measure that far inside? Do they mak...

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In your second photo, when I enlarge it, I believe I'm seeing a gap between the shoulder of your wishbone and the spring perch. There should be no such gap. Makes it look as if your wishbone is not fully seated against the back of the spring perch. It's very important that it is.

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Thomas you will be very impressed when you DO experience a kick back. What you're advising is quite risky, assuming you're starting on battery. Agree 100%! Thomas, Your car may be timed a bit too retarded with the spark all the way up, so for YOU a few notches down is great, I suppose. However, you...

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I did not remove the wheel from the car, I removed the tire, replaced the tube and tire with the wheel on the car. I probably got too aggressive when remounting the tire and moved the rim to the inside of the felloes? I would love to be able to remove the tire and realign the rim with the rest of t...

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I don't think you have to worry about whether or not the ends are the later style or the early tapered & rounded end style. Being the top leaf, the ends should only be just barely visible, (if visible at all), when installed in the car. If it's an issue for you, just grind in the taper and round off...

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jiminbartow wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:01 pm
... you can get a good grip with a Stinson (pipe) wrench.

If you'll forgive me please; Stillson.

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Hi, When I drove home today I thought about a couple of issues I would like to improve on the T and how I could accomplish it. One thing that really is annoying is vibration. Keeping the T under 30 mph is o.k. but maybe she could run much smoother even at that pace. Too bad that I have no chance to...

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Head gasket.

"I just recently replaced the head gasket, and all bolts after chasing all the bolt holes so I'm pretty sure that's not the issue."

Did you re-torque the head bolts after a warm-up & cool down? If not....

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What's an I-Timer?

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I was out for a drive today and as I came in to a left curve it felt like my drag link flexed or bowed, momentarily causing loose steering and tight puckering. The link doesn't look bent. Maybe this is why old racers tied spruce spars to their steering linkages? I once reinforced some early running...

Jerry VanOoteghem

The extra ear with the hole in it could have been intended for use with tire chains. The ears would be attachment points for the chains. Just my theory anyway... but I have seen set-ups like that.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Forgive me if any of this has already been suggested. 1. Push your coils down all the way in the box. See how the left end coil is sitting so much taller in the the box than the rest? 2. Pull your throttle lever down at least half way, if not more. Five notches is not enough, unless maybe the engine...

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Rich,

Why do you put the hogshead on after the engine is installed? It's a pain to do it then. I always put it on before the engine goes in the car, then just slip the 4th main in place.

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Jerry, I wish you could have been there. After all, part of this story is yours. I would love to hear about how you got the removable cylinder head motor to Piquette. Respectfully Submitted, Trent Boggess Trent, That is a pretty interesting story actually! Too much for my fumbling fingers to type. ...

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Some have even been bored to .125. That's where I'd get scared!! Past .060" you can run into trouble sealing between #1 & #2 and #3 & #4, as the wall between them starts to get pretty thin. I think I'd begin to consider sleeving back to standard, or finding a better block.

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Very nice Rob. Thanks for posting this, I hated missing it.

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All of those engines are already at Piquette... in cars! Once they reopen, a "Hood Off Day" would be a cool thing!

Jerry VanOoteghem

Shouldn't be that loud. Have a look at the muffler and the exhaust pipe connection to the manifold. The big brass nut sometimes likes to come loose.

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Joe Bell wrote: ↑
Fri May 29, 2020 3:18 pm
Jerry, I sure miss cousin Bud! He always found these barn fresh cars that always ran perfect. I heard he found one in a Mine shaft??

Well, if someone could find a T in a mine shaft I guess it would have been Bud. I miss him too... Good to Ginny once in while however.

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What is the Ohio Jamboree ? I take it involves a tour, but I am still finding many new things,so i was curious. Hi Donald. It's an annual tour, always in a different town on Ohio. Usually a 2 or 3 day tour on Labor Day weekend. Been going on since maybe 1990? I've been to all but the first 2 and ha...

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This hurts.

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BTW, can anyone tell me how to upload photos so people can click on them and zoom in??? Every time I post pics, they cannot be clicked on. I'm just guessing, but I had similar issue with eBay photos. Problem was the photos weren't high resolution. I switched my camera from VGA to 1 megapixel, probl...

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Well Joe, I certainly understand, but as I'm sure you can guess, my heart is kinda broken over it. Would have been my 29th O'jam... but next year it will be!!! (I'll have to break the news to cousin George, my navigator & co-pilot) I might just drive the T down to Ohio anyway and do my own Jamboree!...

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Did I miss something? What's with the "repaired" body & "brand new leather"? Didn't you have the body already, or was that someone else's project?

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Looking spiffy there! Have fun Model T Lee! I wanna be you when I grow up!

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Well, what you been up to Vinny???

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He's most likely no more vulnerable to contracting the virus than anybody else. If it's too unsafe for him, it's too unsafe for others as well. Only difference with #29 is that it would most likely be a fatal case, but then 20 year olds die from this too, so.... He's probably more at risk of dying s...

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Dennis, The center gear, (a.k.a. the sun gear), should be a heavy press fit on it's shaft. They can be a bear to remove without the right puller. They should not fall off. As an aside, the clutch basket should also be a press fit on the main shaft. Looking closely at your triple gear photo, at least...

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The spiral mark on your clutch basket is most likely a manufacturing mark and harmless. BUT, given the nature of all the other damage you've got, check it out to be sure. Clean it up and see if the spiral continues down in and through the slot, as a crack would do. I think you'll find that it won't,...

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If the problem was in the magneto it would be present when the vehicle is stationary. It was never mentioned if the noise was present when the car was stationary or moving or both. Why offer a solution without sufficient facts I hardly think he'd be checking out the rear end or u-joint if the sound...

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What's even more confusing is the use of the descriptors, wide and narrow. Wide refers to width. Width is measured from left to right. All of the aprons are the same width. What varies is the depth from top to bottom. Hope this helps. Allan from down under. No. The depth is the same too. It's the h...

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bobt wrote: ↑
Sun May 24, 2020 7:34 pm
No gasket. Correct? bobt

No gasket between the retaining ring and the ball, but there is a gasket between the 4th main and the hogshead.

Yup, you can put a shim between the ring and the ball. Be sure it doesn't bind when you're done.

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perry kete wrote: ↑
Sat May 23, 2020 5:58 pm
Do you know where your cat is?

Excellent thought!

Jerry VanOoteghem

You blokes are seeing things that are just not there, it's a normal pour and the shims are still sitting on the block with some dirty oil marks as well, The oil swipes are cut a little rough but that bearing could be brought back to serviceable condition easily. You just may be correct. Maybe the O...

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Even though you're getting no spark, is the coil still buzzing? If the coil is buzzing, but you get no spark at the coilbox spark plug wire terminal, then the timer and wiring are okay. The problem is then an internal short within the coilbox itself. If you get no coil buzzing on #4, then check the ...

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It's not just the length of the end tabs, the crank hole is also mounted lower. The whole apron is stretched.

It suggests that the TT front cross member is different than a T's. Is that true?

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So happy for them!!!

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Judging by this bearing, and the trouble you've had with others, this engine need new babbitt, front to rear. BTW, the roughness is not the big issue, it's the fact that the babbitt is coming away from the block and that you've already lost babbitt in other areas. It's just a bad babbitt job from th...

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Jack up the rear wheels. Go to the driver's side wheel and grab it at the 9 & 3 o'clock positions and push it in & out. Anything more than minimal end play suggests a missing thrust washer. For the u-joint, you can remove the plug covering the u-joint pin access and also the large grease cup and the...

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The end play is controlled by the thrust bearing at the pinion end and the universal joint at the ball end. You don't really know what end play you have until you install & pin the U-Joint. The bushing in the ball end of the torque tube has a thrust face. The flat end of the u-joint fits up against ...

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Told ya' John would know!

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I have found that to be normal. You'll sometimes find end plates that have grooves that the roller has worn into them. In those cases, if extreme, the roller could pop out. That's the only thing I'd be cautious of.

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Contact John Regan, he has given the topic more thought, attention and research than any sane man should

I believe he's on the forum as "Piewagon". R.V. Anderson would also be an excellent source of information!

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It is a White Steam Car. It had a two-cylinder 20 horsepower compound steam engine that has a 3x3.5-inch bore and a 5x3.5-inch stroke. It looks like the Model L was offered in 1908 for $2,500. Those Gray and Davis headlights were used from '05 to'07 mainly. 08WhiteModL.jpg One distinguishing featur...

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I like the 26/27 style motor braces going up to the cylinder head riser plate. Are the steel rods, running under the pan arms, a repair or a reinforcement?

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Before you fit your cap length, look very closely at your crankshaft. On either side of the rear main diameter is a thrust surface, (both front and rear). Just like the thrust surfaces on the main cap, the crankshaft thrust surfaces also wear. The wear pattern on the crank thrust surfaces forms groo...

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The axle tubes should both end up at right angles to the driveshaft. http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/334958.html?1358116875 If they are tending to be so far off as to be a problem, then there's other things that need to be addressed, like maybe a bent torque tube or axle tube. Being off...

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I've got to admit, I've never "adjusted" my radius rods. What are you trying to accomplish? First, the 26/27 style can't be adjusted, which tells me Ford decided they don't need to be. For the pre-26 style, I bring the rear nuts within maybe a one turn of touching the torque tube flange, then tighte...

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Maybe some readers here can post a link to this on other forums they may participate in. I just posted the link on an antique phonograph forum I'm active in. There are several members of that forum in the Buffalo, NY area.

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Steve, Your valve seats look way too wide, deep & out-of-round. In short, they're used up. I believe you should have valve seat inserts installed and most likely new or reground valves. Even if the rings weren't bad, my experience has been that the act of just removing the pistons, then putting them...

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Can the dust be harmful?? It's never a good idea to breathe any dust, with or without lead. If you're concerned with lead, it's the lead element that is inhaled along with any dust that you would be most concerned with. Beside inhalation, and assuming you don't eat any paint chips containing lead, ...

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You say this is your first drive on a new engine? It is possible that whoever painted the manifold did not use high temperature paint, and it's just burning off. As far as the spitting antifreeze, that would happen with an over filled radiator and a missing gasket under the cap. Would also happen w...

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Unless it's been painted with house paint I wouldn't imagine it has lead in it. If you're worried about it then use paint stripper. That way it won't make dust, but then scraping shouldn't produce much fine dust anyway. You could also wear a respirator, which is now high fashion anyway!

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I love your downdraft arrangement! I've always wanted to do that and use a vaporizer type exhaust manifold with an exhaust port in place of the vaporizer plate. Cool!!!

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Is it truly the water inlet that's leaking, or is it where the overflow pipe comes out of the upper tank? They're in close proximity to one another and it's sometimes hard to tell. From my observation, the overflow tube is more likely to spring a leak than the water inlet, (which has a very robust c...

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I do more than heat the corner. I hold a propane torch near the shim stack until the adhesive, (paraffin?), burns away. They all come part nicely then. You obviously don't want to melt them... ;) A refinement on my suggestion above would be to put a tie wire through the hole and hold the shim over ...

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Excellent! Happy to read this!

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I do more than heat the corner. I hold a propane torch near the shim stack until the adhesive, (paraffin?), burns away. They all come part nicely then. You obviously don't want to melt them...

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I can't see how you could crack your flywheel the pins are made to press through from the rear side and press out from the inside. The last 1/2" of the pin about .0015 larger than the working area, with the pin in place, you should be able to press it through by hand then the last 1/2" will require...

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It's usually not that hard to do. Things that can make it difficult are, tires that have been mounted for a very long time and have rusted to the rims, or rims that have been driven on with no tires. In the latter case, the rim edges get rolled under, thereby collapsing the "C" cross section of the ...

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The increased caster from lowering the front end also makes it very hard to steer. I converted mine to 5-1 steering gears to help compensate, which helped a lot, but you still get a workout on a long drive.

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What kind of spark plugs are you using? Most modern plugs act just as you describe, especially in my '21 Roadster for some reason, and so I use only the original Champion X style plugs. currently they are new Autolites. It had old Champions in it, and switching to the Autolites made no change My T ...

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Jerry I read Tim's question and then your 4/28 response. With all due respect, I do not see how that reaponse answers his question. I am still left wondering, too. Color me stupid, I guess. Perhaps you could explain it in other words. Scott, It was really Tim's first sentence, with regard to stiffn...

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What kind of spark plugs are you using? Most modern plugs act just as you describe, especially in my '21 Roadster for some reason, and so I use only the original Champion X style plugs.

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I'm in the "wait for restock" or "place a wanted ad for a new one" camp.

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PVC is far more flexible than wood would be so I also question the level of support. I understand that tacks driven into it will loosen over time as the material expands and contracts with heat...more so than wood. Thus the reason for my question. I want to do this once and do it right so I appreci...

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