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Jerry VanOoteghem

KimDobbins wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:28 pm
Thanks Jerry, I made most of the missing parts off those drawings. There is still a fair amount of work to do on the carb.

Kris would be pleased! What a guy he was...

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This is such a wonderful thread! Congratulations Carson! Very happy for you!

There's not a lot on the internet that makes me happy anymore, but this thread most definitely does!!!

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Stan, Wayland owns this car. He hasn't done much transmission work so he doesn't know the answer to the clearance issue. The B used 3 different carbs. Schebler, Holley and Kingston. I found a letter in the archives dated 1904 stating that all 3 carbs had been tested. The Holley was the best perform...

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Here's one of my personal favorites, "Do not bring a calculator anywhere near your stack of restoration receipts."

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I have never considered that the gap in question was ever a problem. How does it hurt anything?

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The axle you have there is from a TT, or "Ton Truck". It takes a larger Hyatt than a Model T rear end I believe.

Since it's a low speed affair, try researching Berliss bearings. http://www.berliss.com/

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Drill rod, as previously mentioned, should be ok. I would also think of Thomson Shafting. It has a very hard outer shell, (Rc 60/65 case), for wear resistance, and a softer interior hardness, for excellent toughness. Don't know what machining you'll need to do however, so the very hard case might be...

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The problem with altering sleeve thickness, axle diameter & adding shim to compensate for worn Hyatt bearings, is that Hyatt rollers do NOT wear evenly, without taper. When using a tapered roller, because of the differing circumference of each end, one end will tend to "skid" on the axle & sleeve an...

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The new sleeves can be a tad thick. I haven't used any new ones myself, but have heard of tight assemblies several times w/new sleeves. Just wondering out loud if the new sleeves might not be perfectly round after assembly. Either way, I believe a small amount of use will get things settled in in sh...

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Merry Christmas to all!!!!

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Don't worry a whole lot about running rich until you solve the misfire problem, (although the solution for both may be one in the same). A misfiring ignition, (versus carburetor or fuel issues), will in itself cause the engine to run rich. If a plug is not firing every time, as it should, fuel will ...

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While the commutator might be clean, might it also be worn out? What style do you use?

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The water cooled exhaust manifold indicates that it' s boat motor. Possibly a sailboat motor?

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That quick change tool holder is about 1 size too large for that lathe. Not that it can't work, it will just be more cumbersome than it has to be. And, due to its large size compared to the compound it mounts on, it will add to the overhang that Tim refers to. Aside from any danger of breaking anyth...

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Mark Gregush wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:16 pm
Stan I was thinking along the lines of worn case too. Jerry it would move the ring gear the wrong way.

Mark,

Yes, it definitely would. As I mentioned, it would be the wrong thing to do. That said, I like the other suggestions here better!

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The thickness is somewhat close to that of a typical bronze thrust washer. Could this be to take up the gap of a missing thrust washer? Obviously, it would be the wrong thing to do, but an unknowing past tinkerer may have seen it as a solution to an odd gap that he couldn't explain, seeing as how a ...

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Kohnke Rebabbitting wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:49 pm
One more thing, you do NOT need 3 Wrenches, on lifters, with a lock nut.

Hertm.

Correct. And, you do NOT need to cut down your tappet guides in the engine block in order to adjust your tappets.

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Roar_Sand wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:27 pm
Could it be "Root interference lock thread", as used on the Mopar "leaning tower of power"?

Roar,

Yes, that's what it is. Trade name is Spiralock. There's probably others too. https://www.stanleyengineeredfastening. ... /spiralock

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So, who started the whole "Drive around and Eat Stuff" thing anyway? Well, it was inspired by a 3 Stooges episode, "False Alarms". Curly's would-be girlfriend states, "Let's go places and eat things". At 11:43 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3+stooges+false+alarms+&&view=detail&mid=7D6FC3F70E9D...

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Keith,

Thanks for the update! It helps us all when we read, "the rest of the story". Glad that you're on the right track.

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Something like this may work for you: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victor-Acetylene-Regulator-VGS360/392502094491?hash=item5b62f2aa9b:g:lVkAAOSwyXNZ7SXV This is pretty close to what I use. This one is a little big/bulky though: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ESAB-Purox-R-27-15-025-Acetylene-Regulator/39250209...

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That won't do what you want Marty. The pressure to your lights should be nearly zero, but not quite. This gauge's needle will not even move off the peg at those low pressures. You don't need a gauge, what you need is a regulator. There were regulators made in the Model T era, and those that you can ...

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Check the cutout?

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".... it sure did kick back multiple times ...." Aside from any starter troubles, fix this first! Even if your stater engaged perfectly, it'll be ruined again when the engine kicks back on it. Ignoring the bendix itself, how easily does the starter motor shaft turn by hand? An engine kicking back ag...

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Dennis, "What keeps 2 wrench valve lifters from backing off?" To answer your question: Not much. Have had a few friends with those, and the adjustments backed off. Yes, there is a locking method, but in what I've seen, it's not as guaranteed as the lock nut. I've never seen one of the screws as pict...

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Was an awesome tour, as always! A pleasure to meet you George. Sure hope you can join us again sometime. Also had fun talking with several other forum members. The bridges, scenery & people and second to none!

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Thanks so much to all who worked hard to make sure there would be an Ohio Jamboree this year! My cousin and I had a great time, as always! A great bunch of people and a great tour.

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20w-50, in a well broken-in engine.

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Yes there is Paul! BJ Miller and a few other folks picked it at the last moment. I believe it's in Heath, OH. I guess I better make sure for certain, since I plan to be there!

Get a hold of BJ and see if there's still a way you can join in!!

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I've always attributed that misalignment to the body being spread open a bit. Meaning, the dimension from right side to left side arm rest has spread open, or that the right side body panel leans out at the top a bit too much. Given that, I think that it's not so much a door problem as it is a body ...

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It's a one-way clutch. Prevents the wheel from jerking out of your hands on rough roads. In other words, you can steer the wheels, but the wheels cannot steer you. Sounds good on the face of it, but it also means that after a turn, YOU must return the wheels to a straight ahead position, instead of ...

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I learned a long time ago if water flows through the radiator, in a car, too fast it doesn’t have enough time to cool down. I don’t know that this would play a role in a Ts cooling system but in a pressurized system with a pump it sure does. I wonder if it’s possible in a T ? Then wouldn't it also ...

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... but, you still need to check for twist.

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Congratulations Tim! See you in the Soo too!

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It's an aftermarket carburetor for a Model T.

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Lots of well meaning overthinking here. First, by your description of the oil, "brown color," it's not even dirty yet, which makes sense at 300 miles. It's dirty when it's black. Second, you don't need to do anything other than just remove the drain plug, let it drain and drip for a while, replace t...

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Paper gaskets allow straight manifolds to warp, as there are no gland rings to restrain the movement of the manifold when it's hot.

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D.Yoder wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:16 pm
I change oil each spring. Just keep adding through the year

Me too. Except I don't drive anywhere NEAR the miles Dean does!

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I can certainly understand leaving the springs off, but do NOT skip the step of wiring the bolts in place. To do so, you'll need bolts with wire holes drilled through the heads. Do NOT substitute split lock washers in place of the wire.

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My dad used the same drums/shoes/wheel cylinders on my Fordor. Except, he made new backing plates, heavy enough for the job. He also used the GM parking brake parts, actuated by the T parking brake.

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My wife & I were on the tour. The folks on PEI did an awesome job! We had a wonderful time. Best seafood anywhere! (Where can I get a lobster roll in Michigan!?!?!?) Nicest people you'll ever want to find. Really, we hated to leave.

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Are you using the correct water outlet? There's a high head and a low head style.

Yes, pictures would help...

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Had lunch there about 20 years ago. Cool place!!!

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It seems that before the #1 rod went bad, you had no idea that your timing gear backlash was excessive or a problem. That being the case, I would install a new timing gear, a rebabitted #1 rod, and go for a ride with no more thoughts of timing gear spacing or backlash. Generally speaking, unless you...

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Been parking overnight at motels for 32 years with the T. So far, zero issues. I used to never bother even taking the key out, but I heard of somebody having the key stolen. That would be inconvenient... so I take the key out now.

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Always a true gentleman. It was a pleasure to know him. May your soul rest in peace and may perpetual light shine upon you.

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I add a 1/2 quart of automatic trans fluid to my oil. No chatter.

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If the usual T suppliers don't have the red rubber hose for your lights, then try Restoration Supply Co. They have 2 grades I believe. One is just like the original stuff, (supposedly), and the other is also pretty nice.

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This looks like an incredible deal! How has this not sold yet???

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Be sure the zerk doesn't extend too far into the housing such that it interferes with the spring. Other than that, looks like a good enough idea.

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Thanks Dan, I thought about that, and a friend in our Model T club (KCChuggers) reminded me that even in an axle break, if you had disc brakes, the calipers would prevent the wheel from coming off. I resisted the thought of disc brakes... but then, Frank drove home the wisdom, "safety trumps authen...

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Ok - next issue. It looks like the thrust washers for the rear end are supposed to have shallow pins to keep the steels in place. There seems to be only 1 pin still intact in the entire assembly! All others are worn flush. Anyone else had this problem, and is there an easy way to deal with it? Scot...

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I've used both styles with no preference one way or the other. Most important, is to be sure they're in good condition, with NO cracks around the bases of the pins/tabs.

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I know this subject has came up quite a few times but, the ol gray cells don't work as good as they used to. I'm getting close to getting my 26 coupe running after 50 years. A neighbor said I should use oil that has zinc in it, which I suspect that most oils used today don't have. He suggested goin...

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It's time to reline...

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Sounds like you're dangerously near the end on your low band adjustment. Take the trans cover off and have a look at the band ends. Is there any lining left there? The area that wears the greatest is the band ends, so if it's gone, or very thin, it's time to replace.

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I have always understood how a differential works and that the wheel with the least traction will spin, but that is not my question. Given the SAME traction at both wheels, will one ( the “driving wheel”) exert more force than the other in propelling the vehicle? If this is truly a “wives tale”, I ...

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Some folks thread a pipe tap into the old babbitt bushing, then install a pipe plug. A long steel rod is then used to drive out the bushing. Just be SURE, that the long rod is of adequately small diameter to pass by the internal heads of the rivets that attach the ball end to the torque tube. Some h...

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Fairly normal.

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If they are made correctly, (big assumption I guess), the new bolts should already have those grooves. Original bolts had them from new.

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Not necessarily trying to dissuade you from flushing your radiator as it's not a bad thing to do, however, I'm wondering if you're wanting to do this to solve some issue, or just because it seems like you should? Myself, if it's all currently working well, I would tend to leave it alone. Once flushe...

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To answer your question, yes, .017 clearance in your drive shaft bushing is way too much. You need a new bushing. Also, inspect your drive shaft in the area the runs in that bushing. If it too is worn, more than a thousandth or two, a new bushing will not be the total answer, since a new bushing may...

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If by "unwrapping an Egyptian mummy" you mean that the covered was wound around the bow in a spiraling manner, then it was not original covering and perhaps then, not an original bow.

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Marty,

They basically don't care what you're driving. Just have all your documents in place. However, you maybe should tell your insurance company you'll be travelling in Canada.

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I believe you would have to run an engine on starting fluid for some length of time, (greater that just a start-up), to have any bad effects from it. Every once in a great while I'll use some. No problems. Many years ago, in the absence of starting fluid, I used model airplane fuel to get and engine...

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Previous answer said the wheel was supported in 3 places but the wood to wire adapters looked like there was no support at the outer part of the wheel and only appeared to be supported by the studs and lug nuts. And that's why it's a bad idea. Other than that, (and I realize this is only my persona...

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Erik is correct. However if you HAD to do something to them, you could simply brush on some flat black paint. That would be my choice if I felt so compelled, which I would not

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It is an "American Bosch" distributor not to be confused with VW and current "Bosch" distributors, parts are no compatible. There were both clip on, 600 series, and front plate model FI-513. What I don't see in the top down view is a notch on the top of the shaft to lock the rotor in place as it ro...

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I believe it's a Bosch front plate style, not a clip-on.

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While sleeving the bolt holes may seem like a good option, the amount of rust that it would take to go through to a bolt hole would also most likely cause thin spots elsewhere in the head as well. For instance, look into the water outlet hole. You may see that the little vertical posts that reinforc...

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You could buy a pipe die, (1/8-27 I believe), and run it up on the petcock to cut the threads a tad further back. That would allow them to screw in further. I would resist the urge to put a tap in the hogshead threads for fear of getting them oversize.

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Have you ever heard of Cole's Law?

It's nothing more than thinly sliced cabbage with some dressing on it.

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Tom,

"With the filter removed the contaminants would start getting into the carburetor. There would carburetor trouble down the road."

That has never happened to me.

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Heard about him today on National Public Radio.

I true hero in every sense of the word. May God give his soul rest and may we never forget what true heroism is.

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No wood blocks for engine mounts. Some really great suggestions. Look like it is now down to flywheel or transmission. Phillip Try putting in the wood blocks and side bolts. It has ceased vibration in several cases that I'm aware of. At the very least, it's an easy thing to try. Do you know what wo...

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Mark Nunn wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:32 am
Do your engine pan arms have wood blocks? You can get a lot of vibration if they are missing.

Phillip,

Answer Mark's question, it's a good one.

Also, try running without a fan belt. Fans can be grossly out of balance and make lots of vibration. An often overlooked source!

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If you don't use a filter, get ready to rebuild carbs! Tom based on your above quote, with respect to T carbs, I would suggest that you don't know, what you don't know. That's OK...not everyone knows about T carbs, but your statement with respect to Model T's is simply inaccurate. It is excellent t...

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Buy the high quality bolts that RV Anderson manufactures. Old, used bolts are nearly always in poor condition. As someone else pointed out, the split hub is junk.

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Referring to your related posting on your clutch problem, have even positively determined that the spring is broken? The spring retainer can also break, which could also the cause of your trouble. This why I suggest you post a photo of what you're seeing with your trans cover removed.

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Jerry, Dan and George, none of the clutch linkage had been touched since car was built. I pulled the inspection plate on transmission and on further inspection found there is a space between the first two spring rings and the third about 1 inch apart. I don't think that is correct? If the spring is...

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The car I just bought had been setting for 20 some years, when it went into a museum status it had a fresh engine and transmission, I am led to believe that the brake lever was left in the down mode in high gear which I think could have caused the clutch disc to stick together? After starting the c...

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I use the wire. But, rather than just twisting the wires on the backside, I place a small maple stick on the back, situated vertically, to span many fins, and twist the wire over the stick. Doing that, prevents the wire from working into the fins, thus getting loose enough to rub the water tubes. As...

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If they were hiring I'd apply today!

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i have been fixing these for years. this is how i do it.grind a punch 1/6 x 3/16.then support the body as close to the tab as you can then take the punch and drive it thought. then flatten the tab & body then file the tab to fit to fit the slot. then brad it back over.it works. charley Even better!

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Yup. Two piece valves. And, by the looks of most of them, they weren't really doing much anymore, except just going up & down. The engine photo also makes it appear as if the seats have been cut waaaaaay deep. Time for inserts I think, and new valves too of course.

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Is there a particular reason or symptom that you're chasing down? I'd do a compression test. If things looked good, I'd leave the head alone.

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Also, how much of the wood is left unwrapped above the metal part of the bows? Restating my posting, just above yours, "Will add, that the bow drill material should extend onto the bow socket just enough to almost meet the edge of the top. The ends of the bow drill are then turned under to create a...

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I'm pretty sure nothing has been soldered together, at least not originally. The back cover should have small tabs that fit into small slots on the mounting plate. Those tabs would have extended through the mounting plate just a bit when first assembled. Then the tabs got peened over. You can try gr...

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Totally agree with everything Erik states. Will add the the bow drill material should extend onto the bow socket just enough to almost meet the edge of the top. The ends of the bow drill are then turned under to create a nice, finished and even end. Kind of like a hem.

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Regular NH bodies often sell for $20 or less. Is the straight-through so much better that it's worth more than eight times as much? Steve, After rebuilding mine, I lent it to a friend of mine to use on his T for a while. He loved it. Said it was great, and ended up buying one of his own. Since he r...

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Your photo does not suggest any real problem. As someone else stated, car washes can easily do what you describe. Just keep an eye on things.

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modernbeat wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 23, 2019 5:43 pm
If the reason for a change is to avoid dripping oil, then and answer is a sight gauge, or the hose on the two valves.

If the reason is to avoid crawling under the car, a dipstick of some sort is the answer.

Yup. What he said...

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O.K. then, what do you guys buy straight through NH carbs for? I paid $150 for mine, then rebuilt it. Haven't really seen one for less.

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Any asbestos that may be in those is largely encapsulated, bonded and soaked in whatever the black "binder" material is. I wouldn't worry too much about it. However, I would probably not be wild about grinding it or cutting it by abrasive means. All that being said, they have no use in a Model T tra...

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wayne sheldon wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:18 pm
I have been ignoring this thread.
And, yes Jerry VO, you have been missed here. I only looked in now because I saw your name as most recent post.

You guys are gonna make me cry... Really though, thank you for saying that.

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Tom Hicks wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:15 pm
I rarely look here anymore and why I rarely post anymore.

And, you have been missed.
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Thank you Tom. I truly appreciate that!

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I decide. Yup, it's me! There, now let's move on.

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Other manufacturing methods to consider. You could stack up a bunch of shim stock sheets, of varying thicknesses, and have the whole stack wire EDM'd. Fixturing would be the challenge, but not impossible. (Did a similar thing for a work project some years back) OR You could do a search for places th...

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jagiven wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:59 pm

Dan Hatch wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:28 pm

P.S. You should also polish the repro pins, finish is not good enough. Dan
What do you recommend polishing with? Die grinder with a scotch pad?

NO! Maybe some 600 grit emery paper.

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Reading the recent post requesting advice for coolant, I notice a trend for well meaning but misguided alternative advice that is not helpful and may be detrimental to newbies with simple basic how to questions. Many of us for example, have heard of old timers putting saw dust in a rear axle to qui...

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