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I saw the eBay item too it’s not for a generator. I checked Model T ranch here in Texas but no luck there either. They make T kits for different things but not that item.

Seems he also was making some T items for Lang’s a few years ago . Maybe they may know.

Buy the new sediment screen from Lang’s and a new gasket. Do as mentioned above and hope that takes care of it.
Order tomorrow for peace of mind and do it.
That’s where you start from and see if it helps and if it does you solved your issue.

Three things : Gas your putting in your car from a can that’s got dirty gas in it. Your sediment bowl is getting stopped up or is passing contaminated gas and not filtering it good enough. Or the obvious is your gas tank needs to be removed and cleaned out and needs to be removed and cleaned or repl...

Remember that AI was developed with ‘so called’ good intentions. Remember that every one doesn’t think like we do or like some of us do. Things start to change when left to those who want to open up every thing they can. A little here and a little there and then we begin to wonder how did it happen.

The truth is that the new folks that are getting in T’s may not know how deceptive AI can be. Times have changed and finding out what is and what isn’t takes more than a first grader would know.

Make sure you clean the area really well and rough it up a little. It will last as long as your T.

I have a 24 and don’t recall seeing this kind. Your car probably has steel doors so maybe they have something to do with that?? Others may know.

The Ford PU was really hit pretty hard to knock off the cab. Hopefully the driver is OK. If the driver was in the cab that’s a real serious accident. Maybe the cab was removed after the hit but if it wasn’t that’s an another story.

Lang’s has a good selection of NOS besides good used parts. You have to ask to see if they have what you might need.

Older post about T radiator shell height. Good information in this post.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1403420730

Starving for fuel and low on fuel sounds like. T’s don’t have fuel pumps and depend on gravity flow and anything to deprive them of good fuel flow isn’t good.

And again. All it takes is just one time and you’ll find out the hard way why the spark is retarded when hand cranking a T. We have to remember our modern cars and trucks do all the thinking for us when we start and drive them. WE have to do the thinking for a Model T when we start and drive them. I...

I have a 24 Coupe and it’s not like the possible deck lid support on mine.

Good information to check out! http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/193597.html
All it takes is one time and then it will finally sink in about proper timing.

Here a photo of a T riveted differential half that ended its days as a jack stand. It’s the one in the center with the brazed rivets to stop leaks when it was still in use.

Bronze is a little harder material than brass. I’m thinking the originals were bronze. There were some repo brushes made that weren’t the best that were a replacement you could buy individually.

No seal or gasket on any T deck lids from 14-22 that I know of. Metal on metal and that’s it. No T’s are completely water tight. Even the closed T’s leak a little but not much if any.

Pretty much a thin dimes worth.

The Ford service manual on page 237 paragraph 1002 says to set the spark plug gap APPROXIMATELY 1/32”.
1/32” is .03125 which is ABOUT the thickness of a thin dime.

I split the difference. .030. The spark plug gap is about like setting the carb 1 1/4 turn and the going from there to get the setting for each particular car. That being said all T’s aren’t exactly alike.
Didn’t Henry say to set the gap with a thin dime?

The interior may have some oval headed trim screws on the dash.

Absolutely Ford used spot welding. The body of my 21 Touring was joined together at the lower section at the rear doors using three spot welds. And by the way the spot welds were pretty good. You could barely see them when Ford painted the bodies. The A I cloud geniuses are about as bright as the T ...

For what it’s worth Fordwood sells the top wood and related parts but you probably already know that. Yes they are slow but the top and other wood parts might be a way to at least start getting a better idea how the parts go together. I have a feeling the sedan body wood was put together in a genera...

I bought a recored low radiator off of EBay and when I got it I noticed the top tank and head outlets were way out of line. I made a spacer to get the correct alignment. Works and aligns fine. Not real noticable either. It’s made from a piece of flat 3/8” plate.

Love seeing Model T’s in the real world of their popularity in the teens, twenty and thirty’s. Model T’s paint jobs weren’t the very best and didn’t last as long as today’s modern paint jobs. After a few weeks in the country driving on the roads of that time they drove through MUD, rough roads and m...

If you can find a shop that works on older tractor radiators that will be your best bet in getting a recore. The shop here in the Waco Texas area did a recore for me that was fine. The shop also works on heavy truck radiators and builds radiators for replacements. The owner had a source that makes f...

Didn't Ford and Dodge Brothers have some type of collaboration along the way during the early teens? I was thinking they made parts for Ford and later started building their own cars.

Is the radiator a round tube radiator? If it is it could be original to the car. That could be your problem. More than a few T’s have had the engine rebuilt with the original radiator still in it. A mistake is thinking that if the radiator looks good it’s OK. But not always. After over 100 years the...

The parts you need are on this page from Lang’s. The bolt, clamp and nut. https://www.modeltford.com/pl.aspx?t=s& ... amp&page=1

This should give you an idea of what parts you need for your spare tire bracket.

Your Tudor sedan looks pretty good and seems to be an original car! If it were mine I would remove the tank and clean it out along with the sediment bulb. Your lucky to find that 2 door and looks like it was stored out of the weather!! That’s a really good thing. Have you got the Ford service manual...

If you replaced the timer did you replace the wires one wire at a time when you changed it? That’s a fool proof way to do it to avoid mixing up the timer wires.

Check out the Fordson house.com. They sell new old stock parts and good used parts for Forson tractors. A few yews ago I sold a good magneto coil ring for a Fordson tractor I had for a really good price. They were glad to get it. I contacted them and sent them a picture of it. They sent me a Check p...

As far as the rim goes you’re not going to your run T fast enough to make any difference. You have to remember Model T’s weren’t built like a Rolls Royce or to high standards as other high end makes were. If it doesn’t shimmy or wobble your OK. I would remove the front rims with the tires and watch ...

Thanks for the tips. I may change the radiator coolant. I have antifreeze in it since the shop isn’t heated for winter. Maybe I should use less antifreeze in it. It’s got over 1/2 antifreeze in it. We dont get long weeks of below freezing in central Texas. Maybe 1/4 antifreeze and the rest water mig...

Hi Mike It will greatly be to your advantage to buy yourself the The Ford Service manual that will help you learn about a Model T. Also call and ask Snyder’s, Lang’s, and Chaffins. Ask for their parts catalogues. There is a wealth of information for parts and identifying what you may need for your c...

I was looking at my 21 Touring today and noticed the replacement flat tube radiator has a couple of damp spots on it and very small leaks. These are very slow and not dripping. The radiator was a flat tube recore bought on eBay years ago when I was assembling parts to build the 21. I haven’t use any...

If you have difficulty getting holes lined up on a ball cap or any other holes use a long taper punch or if you don’t have one a screwdriver can work also. The holes in a ball cap are identical distance to each other. Sometimes putting the ball cap bolts in put one in the bottom and then one at the ...

Bump down the left side splash guard/engine pan where it’s far enough down so the spark rod will get a little longer stroke down. Looks like to me the guard/pan took a lick and was pushed upwards sometime in the past. You may not have to cut out a notch to get it to clear but not sure.

I’m hoping they will still make T sheet metal. There isn’t many other folks if any making T sheet metal body panels and etc that I know of. In some ways old car hobbies are changing. Supply and demand for later ‘old cars’ and classic cars sell for more money and the demand for parts for them is wher...

By the looks of this company and reading their information on what they can make these folks could make Model T band linings but the cost to do it would come into question. Like other items would there be enough interest and could enough be made to keep the cost down.

That’s sound like you repaired a big part of the slack in your steering column. While your at it jack up the front end of your T and slowly turn the steering wheel from side to side. Watch closely the front end for looseness in the king pins, tie rod ends and the steering arm. You may be surprised i...

Why not get a 3/8 or 1/2 longer solid rod. That may a way to keep the original look instead of adding piece to keep it moving back. Or did Ford come out with a replacement longer rod if it was a common issue? Why was it cut a bit shorter?

Even when new Model T’s weren’t quite as we think of today. And after they got driven for a while they slowly got more looser and noisey. The quietest antique brass era cars were the heavier cars like the Winton and other bigger heavier cars. But even those cars weren’t built like our cars are today...

Something must not be moving. I have a 24 Coupe and I finally took off the firewall and for me everything was easier to get to. I did it that way. Look closely with someone looking on as you move it up to see where it’s hitting on or dragging on. Was the handbrake moving the clutch ring back and for...

Bottom line is what others have said. A good cooling radiator is a must for a Model T to really drive and enjoy. Radiators can fool you if they look good and especially if it’s an original. Either get it recored or buy a new flat tube. A poor cooling radiator is first in line to cause cooling issues...

Maybe the free crankcase service was checking for oil leaks and tightening up the bolts where necessary! But T’s didn’t leak a “whole lot” did they.

That’s super neat to find the box with it! It doesn’t look beat up either. Really good things are out there and you have to be at the right place at the right time!

The Ford service manual has the information you need. When anyone buys and owns a Model T it should be by your easy chair or reading area and looked at often.

As the old saying goes we live and learn!

Just for grins I looked up dimple die on Amazon and there are all kinds of sizes and sets. There are also other makers and suppliers for dimple dies. Be warned though they aren’t cheap. That’s probably the reason the reproduction sill plates don’t have them. The machine work to make the one stamping...

That’s what I do also. Add pictures to your photo files and when you want to use a picture go to attachments and your picture files will come up. Click on the picture and it will be added to your post or add. That’s the way I do it.

How about using some raised washers. On the original sill plates that’s the effect that was being used less the seam around the screw hole. They come in all sizes and finishes. They would look pretty close but of corse not perfect.

The photo of the older man contemplating whether to go across the muddy road or turn around says a lot when T’s were being used for transportation in the early days of motoring. Could he be thinking about burning out the bands or just turning around. It’s the 12th photo from the top. Great group of ...

I agree that if the Ford branches had enough parts or chassis they used up the parts to build up a complete car. It only makes sense. And the left over parts were sold as time went on. I think that even though the T was old history and out of date there was enough out there that needed parts to keep...

The copper head gaskets can be reused more than once and more if you remove them carefully and clean off the block and head surface well. We have to remember to clean up the head and block really well! In fact in the T era owners would do this more than you think. Sometimes we overthink and start re...

I guess some of the forum members who own Model T’s or have owned them for many years take the Ford service manual and older Ford service books or service books in general for getting repair advice for a Model T. Over the years the books “evolved” . The last Ford service book or manual is the summat...

Allan has the simplest repair idea that works. I have a 24 Coupe that has the zinc/aluminum sill plates and using the method that Allan spoke about is the best way for cracks in this application. It will last as long you own and drive your car and beyond.

Jack the car up on both rear wheels in neutral and press your reverse pedal and see if the wheels turn in reverse. If you have the linkage adjusted correctly you should get a good neutral. After you check if your wheels are turning in reverse put the car in neutral then use the low speed pedal and s...

[/image]It’s now time to remove the fuel tank, clean it out, clean or replace the fuel sediment bulb and that will probably solve your problem. When you found out you were blocking the vent hole that helped for a while which indicates there is a fuel flow problem.

This one that Lang’s sell will fit but you may have to file or grind one side to fit over your door hinge. https://www.modeltford.com/item/7854H.aspx

There may be others out there.

As Steve mentioned it could be possible that the wood firewall was replaced sometime in the early 20’s and even later. If you had a low cowl wood firewall a dealer might have had a steel one or even went to a salvage yard to put one in your car. In the low cowl transition years it probably happed mo...

That’s very true about the gas cap being able to vent. Most any older engines need to have a fuel vent cap on it that works. I have a 54 Ford NAA tractor that was doing the surging and eventually dieing. Checked the carb, fuel bowl and etc until I had read about it in a tractor repair site. I left t...

So do you still have to do anything to the generator by polarizing it or etc? If it has the std. mechanical cutout it doesn’t make any difference.

Use STP. It’s really good for long lasting lubrication. Use a mixture of light grease or heavy gear oil and STP for a good type of lubrication. It was widely used to prelube bearings in newly rebuilt engines when I was in high school and learning about doing it from local hot rodders. You would ligh...

I had the remains of a 1920 wooden firewall with a drip edge still on it I bought from Bobs a few years ago. I had known that Ford made them that way and I wondered if it was done that way to use up the pieces of wood to save money. Maybe it was because plywood as we know it today wasn’t made the wa...

Unless the cowl or windshield post’s are some how bent it should bolt on and the angle should work itself out when the windshield posts are bolted on. Or so it seems.

The battery box lids were probably thrown off in the garage along with the engine pans since the batteries were changed and the lid was looked at as just an extra. The pans were thought about the same way as time went on and as a T was getting older and needing repair. A group 1 6volt battery is pro...

The fourth picture from the top 24-25 Coupe has an extension on the outside passenger door handle and I wonder what for.

This is one way to do it from an earlier post on the forum. It worked for this frame. http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/764053.html?1497523346 There are several others on the forum with information how to do it. Do a general search on the net ‘frame straightening of a Model T Ford frame MT...

Here’s a dealership photo that shows the drip pan under a new T. Yes a new T didn’t leak but very little but after a while———————>.
It’s something we should do and to try to use the right sealers and gaskets in the right places on rebuilds.

You have to remember that even a new Ford T at the dealerships had small leaks on the showroom floors. If you drive a T fairly often they are going to leak a little. The worst culprit is the transmission cover area. If it’s an all new rebuild and it doesn’t leak you haven’t been driving it much.

The so called best timer has the right idea. It’s just not made from good materials like several other repo T parts. For me the good New Day timers are the Best along with originals which still can be found. Three pedal Tap Dancer has it right when T parts reproducers either pass way or sell out the...

Cudaman has it right. That’s what I do and works just like his instructions. Add one picture at a time. When it doesn’t take first the first time go back to your picture file. Click on the picture and you should get some prompts such as edit, trash, and delete when you click on your picture. Click o...

Another T part that’s not always the same.

ALWAYS remember that Model T’s don’t have real brakes and when going down hills slow the engine down and let your engine act as an engine brake. Remember when you’re going along at 35-40 mph the guy behind you will come up faster than you think. Personally I don’t like driving in traffic because the...

Looks like a typical T hub that was cut down at the farm or someone’s garage. Probably some sort or home made tiller?

That’s neat finding a 13 that was pretty much all there. In the 60’s finding an early Brass T probably was a little easier than it is now. You mentioned it is still running well and Im wondering how many times you’ve tightened up the rods if you have since you’ve owned it all these years. I’m in cen...

Well you can? saw or cut off a Coupe rear turtle but I wouldn’t buy a nice T Coupe to make a PU out of it. A Roadster is the way to go for a T PU. Buy a Roadster then build or buy a PU box to put on the back. All you do is to unbolt the removable turtle deck and put the PU box on it. My opinion.

The entire family is almost broke and getting deeper in debt and won’t be going to Disneyland anytime soon. It’s a cold hard fact that everybody's personal Disney land may be going broke too. That’s even a colder hard fact to stomach too.

If there is a way to get around the safeguards there are folks who will figure out how to do it. In the digital world it’s always going to happen. I don’t always get on quick and for some reason it’s usually slower in the afternoon. More use in the afternoon and evenings it seems. Thanks Chris for k...

Pictures tell the story more clearly.

Same here. My phone is a little quicker but my IPad it takes about twice as long. I like my IPad better as it has a much bigger screen.

I’ve noticed it takes a little longer to get on but most of the time it’s less than 1 min or less. These days there is so many more unscrupulous people that will do anything to get your personal information. As little as 5 years ago it wasn’t that way. And it won’t get any better either. It’s a diff...

Tightening the nut when hot is the right thing to do makes sense. Did Ford ever have any thing about this in the service bulletins? Or was it something that was “ just understood “ to do?
If the clamp is mentioned way back when it stands to reason the accessory folks knew about it.

I don’t own an older Brass T but I do have 3 later all black era T’s. Over time Ived picked up several high heads and a couple of them I didn’t use because either the script wasn’t really well defined and some of the head numbers weren’t either. I used the heads that had clearly defined number and s...

Langs sells the exhaust nut clamp for around $8.00
They have been selling them for a good while.

Might be a good idea to mike the journal to see if it’s got wear or a flat spot. It’s much easier to remove a piston with the head off. If you have a copper gasket remove the head carefully and it still might be good enough to use it again. I’ve done that a few times but that’s up to you and there a...

Tighten the low band about 1/2 turn at a time. As stated in other posts it may be worn pedal cams not letting you get the right adjustment for the low speed band.

You mentioned you were going to purchase a long block and going to have it shipped from Connecticut to Indiana. The shop your buying it from should be able to secure it to a good sturdy pallet and maybe use some 2x4’s around it. The way it’s secured to the pallet and protected is something I would w...

The picture of the screwdriver Dan T posted works wonders to hold screws in a the screwdriver so you can get them started! We used that type where I use to work to hold screws to get them started in switch panels, pressure switches and screws in tight places. Every mechanic needs one or two of these...

They appear to be low radiator cars. When enlarging the photo you can see that the first car doesn’t have the lower radiator shield on it. You can just see daylight on the right side under the radiator.

It’s really remarkable the 1910 was kept inside all these years and is in the wonderful condition that it is. I have to ask one question. Since this car was a very low mileage car what condition were the transmission bands in. After nearly 100 years it would seem they probably were beginning to dete...

Reading the description of the new spacer it seems like it’s made to replace the older style magneto contact with the later contact using the same screws. I don’t recall seeing one.
It does seem to be an adapter to me.

As mentioned use a SMALL drill and drill a hole each end of the crack, Wire brush it well and clean the area as best you can then coat the area with JB Weld. Use a small flat spreader such as used with body filler. That will press in the JB Weld. Remove the excess and recoat again. Let dry and that ...

This picture was on a welding page and was interesting! Lincoln built this “portable welder” and what I noticed was the T wheels that was used on it. It also looks like they used a T frame that was altered for the welder. The frame I’m not sure of but the wheels are definitely T. By 1923 when it was...

The magneto coil has been painted with DuPont red electrical winding spray paint. I had some with that was the same exact color. When I removed the engine out of my 24 Coupe for the first time many years ago I used some gas to remove the grease from the mag ring since there were a few places that th...

Maybe the photo was a staged photo with the only engine in the shop to take a pose. Seems like the mechanics would know you couldn’t get the engine in without the firewall area cleared out. But it does have the service sign on it which I still think it was a staged photo for their photo. But the cra...

First thing to do would be to jack up your front end on either side and determine what has any movement in ALL the moving parts. Use the steering wheel and slowly move it back and forth with all the weight off the wheels. You’ll be surprised what’s worn when you thought it wasn’t! Once you determine...

I saw that too on Facebook marketplace here in Texas and thought they were good deals. A bargaining point would be no titles and only the bill of sale. The prices were a good deal but maybe the market is down. I know nothing about the cars or the owners and just happened to see it when I was looking...

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