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The awful, no-good, nasty, bad, dreaded fiber disc washer sanding and installation is done. Sanding the fiber disks down is so much fun because it is almost like catching a wave with a surfboard on the belt sander and the disc can go flying across the shop multiple times if you lose control of it wh...

Likewise Don, I have great teachers.

RustyFords wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:03 pm
Nice chatting with you on the phone the other day.

You're turning into quite the T guru!

I did not do the work.

Right so we are doing a 1916 theme on a 26-27 frame. 26-27 differential for better braking and it is what the frame came with. The hay wagon chassis did not come with running board brackets so I am not perturbing history and can do what is desired. These are early brackets since we are going to be d...

Yes it is a Stevens bushing. The old bushings were shot.

How does one obtain raw hickory to lathe into spokes?

Good to know you exist.

BobShirleyAtlantaTx wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:53 pm
George and anyone else, I’ve got a lathe and press your welcome to use, just bring your hickory and come on. This fall the temperature will be nicer. Bob @ 903-824-194989D65F4C-6AEF-4921-A757-633272984C9C.jpegCC743286-8F8F-4774-96E1-DDDAC001195B.jpeg

Front axle bushing sticks out: https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14819
Gouged pinion gear: https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14818

Hi as pictured the top front axle bushing was replaced but it sticks out into the spindle space. Won't that interfere with the spindle going back in? Just sand it down? Also the bushing is just slightly too snug for the new spindle bolt, just ream it out with a reamer?

I have a pinion gear with one tooth gouge on it pictured. I wonder how it happened? I don't actually need it because I am changing to a higher ratio of 3:1 but I would rather not just throw it away. It is otherwise good. Other than put it in the box of bad parts what can I do with it?

Bending a twisted running board bracket: https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14814 I have new rear axles with transplanted rear axle gears since the old rear axles key ways were very worn out. I have begun rebuilding the differential with a higher gear ratio of 3:1 courtesy of Terry W which...

Hi so I received a running board bracket in the mail twisted and bent. I want to get them as straight as possible before sandblast and priming. I pressed it and bent it back into a close but not exact alignment with one that looks straight. How close to original shape do they have to be? The bottom ...

The goal was to take a 11 tooth pinion gear off one assembled drive shaft and tube and put it on another drive shaft that was disassembled. The other was a standard 10 tooth pinion. I used a 3 jaw puller and a impact to take off the standard 10 tooth un-assembled. The basketball goal base it is rest...

While it may be his email is either spoofed or compromised, unless he is a ghost and I am delusional (could be) I met him and his wife in his awesome shop a few weeks ago. He sold me a bunch of parts. I do get spoofed and faked emails from our local T club president. The way you can tell is that the...

Funny on the PRUS head but here actually is an electric T: https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/from-t-to-ev

Egads I mispoke. The pinion nut is off, the pinion GEAR I meant to say is what I want off. I don't want to take the U-joint off because this differential doesn't belong to me and it has to go back to the owner and I would rather leave the U-joint on if I can get away with it. Is there a way of remov...

Is there a way of removing the pinion edit:**gear** without taking the U-joint off? The drive shaft and tube are off the differential but as far as I know I am unable to fit a puller jaws onto it not enough room and the slam it on a piece of wood maneuver isn't going to work because the U-joint will...

Hi, I am doing similar with my hay wagon to speedster project. The frames are riveted, the bolts are not original. I am told that rivets are preferred for frame flexibility. The teethed item for the brake lever is referred to as a quadrant. Others have said stretch a string to check if the frame is ...

Low head wanted.

Sweet motor.

John Kuehn as well: Take off the head, open up the radiator pipes. Drill the crud out of the holes, chuck a length of cable into your drill, insert the cable inside all the passageways and let it fly. The cable will fray and break away all kinds of scale. You can 'thump' the head on a flat piece of ...

Say any ID of what this tank is? The speedster tanks I see and are currently sold new have the fill hole in the middle while this one has it to the side.

Resurrected! The radiator shop metal man was good, I watched him fix it the first time but the strategy was not good. So I spoke to John T and he suggested take the end cap all the way off straighten it and put it back on. So I took it back and voila! Looks pretty good. They also metal brushed the l...

You know that if you teach a man to fish then give him a 20 ton arbor press he will spend 2 days smushing random things before getting down to business.

Thanks for the machine shop instructions. Unlikely to happen with just an arbor press but I don't want to end up like Phineas Gage.

How do you keep them from leaking? I had a set of original style hose clamps but they would not get tight enough to seal so the hose leaked. I had to change to modern ones.

I think I am going to have to punt to a shop. I put it on the arbor on the thick metal plate on a 1.5 inch socket which made it just about 1/2 inch too long to fit into the press. I took out the movable shelf, put 2 x 4 wood across the legs with the metal plate on top and pressed some, the wood crea...

I nominate myself for screw-up of the year. Sorry to report that the 10 psi pressure method was going well. Then I took my eye off the gauge while heating and pressurized it too much (the cap leaked air a bit) blew the seam out because the solder had melted. I took it to a radiator shop which is wha...

Bingo the U-joint did not fit on the end of the longer shaft from an unknown source at all. It fit perfectly on the shorter one from a known source. Ignacio, The shorter trusted one looks more correct. Check your U joint on the shafts to see if the U joint pin hole matches up. I think the longer sha...

It begins. I have it in the 20 ton arbor press with some force on it. I've read the guides. I am not in that big of a hurry. Anything I can/should do to facilitate the gear removal? Heat it? I am not likely to reuse these axles as the key ways are worn out.

My chassis has no hand brake. I acquired several from Dave Huson in various states, settled on this one. The lever rod end that normally has a cotter pin is slightly broken off with no hole for a cotter. I can think of several ways of fixing this a) one of those circle retainers with teeth but I wil...

Yes I can try this. I have ordered a 1/4" NPT thread with OD 1/2 schrader valve that I can put in the drain. Make a replacement gasket for the cap which is rotted using cork gasket material and see what happens... When removing dents, a really good method is to neutralize the fuel vapors by a simple...

Fired up the stud welder to get the dent out. It is better but still has creases and imperfections. Unfortunately the strap will not cover them up. That's where body filler comes in I suppose. Being obsessive I find body filler distasteful, is there a way to get the creases and imperfections out wit...

Sounds like Luray it is. Never heard of it until recently.

Hi, I purchased fenders, aprons from a feller in Johnstown PA with plan to pick up at Hershey only Hershey is cancelled. The owner does not want to put the items on a pallet for shipping, only in-person pick up. If any one is heading in that direction and can pick these up in person then either put ...

Speedster gas tank topic: https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14377

Why is one drive shaft longer than the other? https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14379

Pictured are 2 drive shafts exactly aligned at the pinion gear end. One is noticeably longer than the other. Which one is right for a 1925 motor with a 1926-27 differential? The longer one came off of my Touring parts salad car of unknown history when I first took it a part and had all kinds of biza...

So I picked up a speedster gas tank shown in the pictures. It has a ding on the side without the seam IMG_0985.jpg It has some surface rust outside and in. Here is an inside picture through the fill hole IMG_0981.jpg There does not appear to be any rust through's or soft spots. I plan on paint less ...

Mine rears back like that too but that's the way they are. It makes more sense on a Touring which curves back a bunch while yours angles forward.

lmitch wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:23 pm
Thanks so much Dan. Perfect. Got it test mounted today but it doesn't look right to me. What do you think?

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Thanks for the comments, we arrived back to Houston late last night and had to unload the RV. Here is a picture of most of the purchased hoard, a lot of it in the blue plastic tub. Not shown is a speedster gas tank acquired at Model T Haven and the differential half Dave Huson generously gave to me ...

Heading home to Houston now in the last RV that was available in Houston. We went all over but visited High Plains Model T in Longmont, CO with Dave Huson. Dave has a remarkable collection and we were able to get most of the missing chassis parts and much more. Then we visited Model T Haven in Iola,...

2nd largest front early tapered leaf spring.

Planning on stopping into Model T Haven. Here is my current list of parts wanted: Running board mounts and steel strap that holds them up. Battery holder. Drag link. All parts of the brake lever including the mounts and the quadrant. Steering column, steering wheel. Rear axles, my key ways are worn ...

Hi Gene, the trip is on but might be my soccer-Mom van and not an RV due to shortage of RV's in Houston. Thanks for the pictures. The girlfriend approved goal is more like this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JH7D34LNwMc/S ... edster.jpg

What I've been able to figure out on gear removal and reuse is stand the axle up in the press, use a hub to steady it because it can shoot out of the press if not centered. Press, remove the keeper, press it out. Steve Jelf's and other demonstration pictures helped.

Thank you for the invite!

noelchico wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:55 pm
Ignacio, I don't know what you need or what, if any, year you're looking for but if you'll be close to Pierre you're welcome to look at my stash. We'll be out of town 9th till evening of 12th. I work days Mon-Wed each week but evenings are free. Noel

Do you mean like this? $135 each? https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_mode ... shaft.html How do you get the old gear off for reuse?

Great! Now how to get it? I will be heading Houston Texas to South Dakota next week but South Pittsburg is a ways off East...

Hi, My family will be traveling from Houston Texas to South Dakota and back 07/10 to 07/15 on a peculiar vacation due to the pandemic. I will be looking to acquire parts for the Hay Wagon to Speedster project https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13134 but may also within reason be able to pi...

Hi, I need the following chassis parts for Hay Wagon to Speedster project https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13134 Will be driving Houston to Mount Rushmore South Dakota 07/10/2020 and back 07/15/2020 Running board mounts and steel strap that holds them up. Battery holder. Drag link. All p...

Or maybe weld more steel in and re-cut it? I don't know how much they would charge for something like that or if it would be worth it.

Here is the stack that I think is right for this, 7 tapered leaves. The sandblast place put slip plate paint on but they didn't understand my instructions very well and put it ll over the tops and bottoms even the parts showing.

Parts are back from the blaster epoxy primed with Sherwin Wiliams Macropoxy 645 B58 W 610. Chassis is back together again, rear spring pack is back together again, all the springs and new perches are re-bushed. See other discussions on worn out rear axle key way https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopi...

Hi, on the hay wagon to speedster project https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13134 the hay wagon came with what looked like a hodge podge for its front leaf springs including extra leaves. I had a set of early tapered leaf springs from my previous Touring project. So I took them all ap...

My rear axle key ways are worn out. I am told I can get them re-cut on the opposite side of the shaft by a machine shop. What do I tell the machine shop for dimensions? According to this diagram halfway down the discussion: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/77953.html?1231423423 The keyways...

Blasted! Their compressor was huge, looked like a V8 engine on a trailer.

Just after blasting.

Found out they will epoxy prime too for a good price so they are getting ready:

I have an appointment with the sand blaster tomorrow so I sped up the pace a bit. Dismantled completely the chassis which had been re-put together at some point with bolts not rivets and to get the blaster to clean out the crannies. Straightened things a bunch too that had been bent. Some pieces lik...

Balto's College tuition is much less than my sons.

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:17 pm
So Balto gets credit but the son doesn't? What's up with that?

So we are back in business with Shirley my Touring after Ross Lilleker did a motor refresh. My dog Balto and son sat still long enough to get a picture with the Newsboy hat on.

First sandblast bid is in, way too high right now, need to get some more. Getting cleaner on the differentials. The process: Kerosene scrub twice. Broke up the grease lumps inside the tube with a piece of steel pipe. Ran through a round toilet brush with a string attached multiple times. Taped a sid...

What is and where can I get the proper driver?

Totally smooth now. Really makes a difference. I took it to church this morning and it was perfect. Ross built up the worn pedal faces so that they fit the new cams better. The pedal travel is tight. Also I suspected and Ross confirmed that the machine shop had re-drilled the pedal shaft in the wron...

So the epilogue of this is that it all improved the running but it still wasn't quite right and would still backfire at high (for a model T) speed. I took it to Ross Lilleker in College Station, Tx to get the original 2-piece valves changed out and other engine work. He found that the carburetor pin...

Turns out my bushing removal tool was fine it would simply not budging whatsoever until I cut it with a hacksaw. I was whaling on it with a 5 pound sledge, was bending the plate and it wasn't happening. After I cut a sufficiently deep cut to make it collapse a bit then and only then it moved.

I will take it. Can do Friends and Family.

They are out with a combination of hack saw and hammer. They really wouldn't move at all until they had been cut enough with the hack saw to collapse or compress.

Ground the rivets off to remove the brake backing plate to reveal nice insect larvae and webs. Having difficulty removing the brake cam bushings see other thread discussion 'Thin Bushing Removal'.

I am using the 'Shackle and Spindle Arm Bushing Driver' from Lang's https://www.modeltford.com/item/3820-44T.aspx I've cut it with a hack saw on 2 sides (see pictures) and whacked it pretty hard with a 5 pound hammer but it doesn't seem to budge. The brake drum backing plate is off. The insect larva...

Thanks so the replacement brass bushings are 1926-27 but the outer diameter seems big for the hole am I supposed to sand it down?

Hi, I am wanting to replace the pictured brake cam bushing but it is just a thin shell left. The regular bushing removal tool moved it only a little because the bushing is too thin. Is there an easy way to take it out?

Big box o parts and tools came from Lang's today. This is my second time to rebuild a differential, the first time January 2017 you can read all about the adventure here: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/713632.html?1490798775 Let's just say it was not easy the first time. This time the s...

Yes it looks like 2 sets have been doubled up and I am missing the one with the rolled end that holds the clamps. Sigh. Ignatio, you will not need that many leaves in the rear spring of a speedster. Because there are three bends in all but the top two leaves, they have to nest together properly to b...

How can I get a double seat like this?

Springs are taken apart. On my first model T it took me days to figure things out and hours to push worn bushings out. I also couldn't afford the bushing tool. This time it took me about 40 minutes to push out bushings on 3 sets of springs. These will get cleaned up and painted hopefully soon.

Chassis including the differential is mostly diamantled. I save everything including things that are probably useless. Box of parts:

I inspected the differential thrust pins today: 5 are sheared off. Going to be fun drilling them out...

Much obliged on your offer, maybe I will take you up on that one day but this chassis has sentimental value to the farmers family which is why I am fixated on it. You're a long ways from Montana but if you need some stuff come on by. I have half a dozen chassis better than that I would give you, pil...

Twenty tons of persuasion :-) I cut the corroded nut off with a angle grinder without damaging the wishbone. That freed up the wishbone, then put the axle on a 20 ton press and 'tong, tong' sounds and out they came. I had to do the bad one twice though because the threaded side mushroomed so I pushe...

Not seeing it on Lang's, am I missing something?

Is the 1926-27 e-brake cam lever the same as previous years or is it something different?

We've decided to keep the chassis more or less 26-27 and from there up be more or less 1916 style. Today we continued taking things apart. Opened the differential. Disintegrated Babbit, missing aircraft wire, pulverized detached bolt, good Hyatt bearings, sludge. A great time by all. My children hel...

Corroded nut on wishbone. Nut and bolt were so corroded that it had to be cut off to be removed.

Have dismantled it a lot and found surprises. One of the hub bearings was shot. It had been basically turning on grease only for who knows how long: IMG_0761.jpg Spindles are worn, one looks ok the other not. IMG_0769.jpg Enough thread left for this to work? IMG_0770.jpg 10 spring leaves probably to...

And so it turns out that the hay wagon front spring had 10 leaves probably to level it and the top leaf is a intact tapered, unbroken top spring hidden under the cross member! Yes indeed. I can use it to fix a good set of 1917 or before front spring that was broken. See picture at the end of this th...

I have taken it out and and it has...10 leaves! The top leaf is intact. I think they put so many leaves in to level it as a hay wagon. The screen below is an early spring for comparison. -- IV

Good to know, I can get the late style cut look easily but the nice early rounded end look? I was thinking trace the end of a good one with a marker on the new piece and use an angle grinder to cut it to the curve? The single curve in a front spring means any longer leaf can be cut down to the lengt...

So now I cannot unsee this. Is that roof flashing metal? Put a socket inside and peen it over to fold the top then cut the fins then put it in another socket and bend the 'fins' over?

Alright then let's go!

Henry K. Lee wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:52 pm
They range from 8 1/2, 9, 9 1/2” total length.

Yes indeed, I am not sure of the length because all of my top leaves are broken. I do not have an intact example to measure. That's why I am not invited to all the cool model T kids parties...

Hi, like many I suffer from Broken Top Front Leaf Spring Disorder(BTFLSD). It can be an embarassing condition especially in crowds. Does anyone sell these? Can they be hand made with a grinder cutting wheel from existing spring steel? My favorite vendor says that their supplier won't sell individual...

Allan, thanks here is another picture of the spindle. I do not see a number on the frame where I think it should be. I thought 1926-27 had a frame number?

George et al, original thread 'Hay Wagon to Speedster' and goal Speedster links here: https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13134

Here are pictures of the spindles.

Here is the differential.

I found in my stash a set of front springs from Shirley. The top leaf is broken, where can I get one?

There is the infamous 'o-ring trick' but I could not get it to work.

This front spring is on a 1926 ish frame. It has 9 leafs. They do not taper smoothly, the second to the bottom one is shorter than the third from the bottom. The fourth from the bottom may be broken at the tip. The spring clamps are missing on both sides. The stack is rotated a bit towards the camer...

Hi, I am trying to figure out what the shape of this frame front corner bracket is supposed to be?

1964 Corvair Monza Coupe "Lisa" is her name. I learned how to weld on her. Lots of Model T'ers have the Corvair affliction and vise versa.

Nice pictures, where did you get the double seat?

spadpilot wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:53 pm
Not the only messy garage on the Forum! Am hoping to drive it by July and to finish it sometime......This is loosely based on a Currier kit.

More pictures and questions. It is not a hay wagon anymore. All of the trailer type hardware is off. I did not have to cut anything off which was great. Pretty sure the front axle is bent. Yes those are $7 Harbor freight small furniture movers under the rims they work great. The oil pan looks ok in ...

Transformation has begun.

Tires for sale only 57 years on them.

Home at the garage.

Hay wagon u-brackets are off.

Rear is looking like a T again.

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