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Allan wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:50 pm
Photos please. There is a variety of fans, pulleys/shafts/mounting arms. The recommended fix will vary.

Allan from down under.

I’ll get better photos tomorrow, but here’s the only one I have so far

Hello! I’ve noticed my fan belt is rubbing on my timer and has created a small groove. I know that part of the problem may be the belt, which I plan on replacing. But I’ve noticed there’s a slight wobble in the fan and shaft itself. I’d like to rebuild it so that it doesn’t have play and so that I k...

John, MANY years ago, an MTFCA member by the name of Reid Welsh did an exhaustive study to find the ingredients of actual Ford Gilsonite. There were many posts by him on that subject. He actually produced several batches and used it to paint his 1922 Coupe. From what I can remember, it was a mixtur...

Bought a 24 coupe at the end of August. My very first T. Noticed it had a slight misfire....down the rabbit hole I went with help from many people on this amazing resource! Drained and cleaned the radiator, replaced all wiring on the vehicle, new brass camshaft timing gear, had to fix cross threaded...

Can someone direct me to some schematics for rebuilding a coil box? It's for my 1924 coupe.
Thanks in advance!

Wow! That was a quick fix. Enjoy and happy motoring ! Ha! What a whirlwind! Also in that time I took the opportunity to replace every inch of wiring in the car. Installed four new coils as well. I'm going to do a rebuild on the coil box next as I have some odd sparks at the carb adjusting rod now lol

TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:05 pm
If the spark occurs only when cranking the engine with an electric starter, it could be a ground issue.

its happening while its running. even on mag.

I had the exact same problem, thought it was the coil box too. Turned out to be the ammeter. The insulators for the ammeter were left off by mistake and it was causing arching at the carb adjustment rod. Found it unexpectedly when the ignition switch panel was removed from the dash for an unrelated...

I would finish your rewire job with the most important part of the Model T electrical system which is the coil box! It’s the brain for your car. If it hasn’t been rebuilt before I would rebuild it. It may carbon tracking, a short in the wiring close to the firewall or etc. causing the arching. you’...

Just to give everyone and update on this situation so that others may find this if needed in the future.. Could not get the Roller brush to seat properly on the camshaft. After digging, discovered that the camshaft lock nut had somehow backed off from the camshaft timing gear and became cross thread...

RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:43 pm
Sounds as though you have a carbon track happening somewhere in the coilbox.

Thank you! That was my suspicion, but I wanted to bounce it off of more knowledgeable folks than myself lol

Hello everyone. I have an odd situation I'm hoping I can get some help with. I have a 24 coupe. There is an occasional spark at the firrewall and carb end of the carb adjuster rod. Of important note, I have just completely rewired the vehicle EXCEPT for the coil box itself. I also do not yet have a ...

Thank you all! I'll look more into the local chapter, the problem I have is that I live in the middle of nowhere. It's nice because it's my great grandparents farm but everything handy is forever and a day away. Here's the update on the interesting situation at hand...I removed the camshaft cover. T...

jiminbartow wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 5:05 pm
Here is a bigger copy. Easier to read:

www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/41 ... 1390100844

Thank you so much!

Looking at the end of the camshaft the number of threads showing is a lot less than in the other picture from another poster. This would show a possibility of that cam gear nut being loose and the flange on that nut is probably grinding on the inside of that timing cover with the two camshaft dowel...

Is the timing gear nut snug, or loose? It would shorten the distance when loose needed for commutator flapper or roller to fit properly on camshaft. I have not taken the cover off yet but I am sure it is loose, by the appearance of it. I'm trying to get as much direction as possible before I tear i...

If I’m looking at your latest photo it sure looks like the timing gear cover is off center? If that’s the issue of your binding roller timer I wonder how your car ran to begin with. The cam is probably in the correct position in the block itself but the timing gear cover is visibly way off on one s...

If I’m looking at your latest photo it sure looks like the timing gear cover is off center? If that’s the issue of your binding roller timer I wonder how your car ran to begin with. The cam is probably in the correct position in the block itself but the timing gear cover is visibly way off on one s...

Do you mean the round roller between the two arms isn’t turning? I think you mean when you installed the roller assembly on the camshaft and inserted the pin that holds it in place you noticed the roller wouldn’t turn easily. The term brush term is used when you have a New Day timer. It has a brush...

Do you have the Ford service manual? That’s a really good resource of close up pictures of the engine compartment and a way to identify engine parts and the wiring that goes to them. Once you identify the engine components then you can install the individual wiring harnesses to the engine and the f...

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for where the wires are supposed to be on a 24 coupe? I'd like to restore their placement properly. I have a great wiring diagram for which wires go to which part etc, but am sturggling to find a diagram of where they go on the vehicle itself.
Thanks for the help!

Well I had an issue with the piece that goes over the pin before putting the nut on. I had to take a dremel and cut a notch on mine to allow the arm to fully articulate. In the photo, the left side is hanging up on the metal ridge. I’ve filed it down to see if it’ll help, but it hasn’t. I’ve got an...

RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:40 pm
Just a "FYI" - that bolt directly below the timer should be reversed - bolt head on top w/nut at the bottom.

John's on the right track with the cam gear hub thickness - photo appears that the roller body is against the cam gear retaining nut !

What do I do to address this issue?

speedytinc wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:38 pm
Looks like the roller body pivot arm is hitting the cam gear nut edge @ the rear.

I think so too. In comparison to the old roller brush, the arms are much larger

Remove the brass shield and then see if it frees up the roller. It’s too close from the photo. If it’s rubbing the roller then remove it and install the modern press in seal. John, I will do this and get back to all of you on this thread with an update. Thanks to you and Tim for your continued help...

Oldav8tor wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:06 pm
Does your engine have a modern neoprene camshaft seal? I have a New Day and I know that when you use a modern seal you don't use the large brass washer / shield over the camshaft.

No, it's the old style felt. Thank you for your input and help!

Here's a photo of it to maybe better help! Installed with the cam nut tight, there is no movement to the roller arm assembly at all. Roller moves freely.

John kuehn wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:16 pm
Remove the roller, use some oil to lubricated and press see it in and out so it will begin to move freely. It’s braded to tight it seems.

Here's the weird part, it moves just fine once it isn't installed.

John kuehn wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:01 pm
Do you mean the round roller between the two arms isn’t turning?

No, the roller is turning, but the arm itself is not moving, allowing for the spring action of the roller and arm assembly to function. It's like it's pressed too close to the engine making the arm immovable. Roller works fine.

Odd situation. Roller brush, not anderson flapper style brush? The anderson brush takes a modified cap. The regular roller brush cap will lock the finger up. A picture of your brush installed might be more enlightening. Could it be indicative of a bigger problem, such as a camshaft issue? It almost...

Odd situation. Roller brush, not anderson flapper style brush? The anderson brush takes a modified cap. The regular roller brush cap will lock the finger up. A picture of your brush installed might be more enlightening. Yes, it's a roller brush. Is there a washer of some sort that is supposed to be...

Good afternoon! I am attempting to install a new timer on my 24 coupe. I purchased a roller timer Snyder's. I'm having a bit of difficulties when it comes to the installation of the brush. I placed the brush on, inserted the pin, with a bit of difficulty, and the roller brush does not freely move. I...

You mentioned the wiring being in really bad shape and pieced together saying it’s been frakensteined together. That’s a big sign to rewire your 24 Coupe! What’s happened is it may have the remains of the original wiring patched up and I don’t know that but whatever it is it’s got to go! The batter...

Tim..... Looking at ignition coils and observing physical qualities will not assure correct electrical settings. Any physical pressure to the point assemblies on top of a coil will change the electrical values and output ...Equally, cranking Edison Amberola springs will not assure complete proper s...

Hello, everyone! Just to give an update on this. I have ordered a replacement timer. I actually purchased an ANCO from Lang's and one of the roller timers from Snyders. I figured it wouldn't hurt to have another one on hand and I'll eventually get to test out the different styles for myself. I do no...

Nothing wrong with gloves - I frequently wear gloves when working on greasy / dirty items. I'd say the timer could be the source of your problem. Tip Top Timers of Spokane Valley make quality New Day and Anderson reproductions. Give Mark Hutchinson a call and talk it over...‭(509) two-two-zero-0892...

Also, I wear gloves, yes. Hard habit to break. I'm a medic lol go easy on me.

Just got back into the house from the shop. Here are some photos of the timer after I took the housing off and cleaned it up. I noticed a lack of any type of lubricant and TONS of metal shavings. I cleaned it out a bit and took some photos. I do not know what kind it is, you'll have to forgive me as...

Good evening everyone! I have a 1924 Coupe that I haven't had very long. It's had a misfire since I purchased it (about a month ago). I have replaced the spark plugs, that didn't fix it. I have replaced the coils as well and still has not seemed to fix the problem. Where do I go from here? It'll int...

Than you everyone for your help with all of this! I was able to get the parts and place them and it's all set! Thanks again everyone!

Thank you for the suggestion! I had looked on lang’s and couldn’t find anything but I didn’t really know what I was looking for. Found the set now and purchasing a few to have on hand. Much appreciated!

Thank you. I truly appreciate it!

Hello! I’m new to the model t world. I have a 1924 coupe, the battery keeps grounding out at the starter button on the floor. I’ve placed nylon and rubber washers on both sides of the bolts to prevent them from grounding out on the bracket. I’ve even placed a smaller nylon washer around the bolts to...

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