Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
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JTT3
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Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
How is the flange that holds the posts where the planetary gears mount attached to the shaft? I ask because we’re trying to shorten the shaft by a few inches and if that flange is a keyed press fit &/or pinned it would seem the easiest route instead of machining the bottom of the shaft. That would involve a lot more work to do. We’ve thought about cutting the amount needed off in the area that would be covered by the column housing but decided that would prevent you from seeing any issues so the other thought was to remove the amount needed between the advance stabilizer fitting and tension springs. Thoughts???
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Re: Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
It is a separate forging that is friction welded onto the shaft a little ways down. Look at it closely & you can see.
Best way to shorten is to re-machine a taper, keyway, & thread where you need it at the bottom.
Best way to shorten is to re-machine a taper, keyway, & thread where you need it at the bottom.
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JTT3
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Re: Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
Agree but hoping to avoid the work ha. Thanks John
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Re: Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
Couldn't you cut of the flange & drill/machine out the undesired material and reattach as you hoped?JTT3 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 29, 2025 6:53 pmHow is the flange that holds the posts where the planetary gears mount attached to the shaft? I ask because we’re trying to shorten the shaft by a few inches and if that flange is a keyed press fit &/or pinned it would seem the easiest route instead of machining the bottom of the shaft. That would involve a lot more work to do. We’ve thought about cutting the amount needed off in the area that would be covered by the column housing but decided that would prevent you from seeing any issues so the other thought was to remove the amount needed between the advance stabilizer fitting and tension springs. Thoughts???
Also if someone is making a repro then they could do one for your needs
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Re: Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
Machine the bottom of the shaft as others have stated...., done bunches over the years. Anything else is asking for a dangerous situation in the hands of those with limited skills. The shaft/flange attachment is where all the torque is located.
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Re: Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
Agreed. Much safer to chop & remachine the lower end.Henry K. Lee wrote: ↑Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:48 amMachine the bottom of the shaft as others have stated...., done bunches over the years. Anything else is asking for a dangerous situation in the hands of those with limited skills. The shaft/flange attachment is where all the torque is located.
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Bonus: the new ,shorter section is new, unworn size.
I have done essentially the same job on shortened drive shafts. Takes a little time, but not difficult.
If you do chop & move the top, Remember to re-key to the long 3rd pins position as it was. (if the later, safer long pin top)
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Re: Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
in relation to the keyway at the bottom of the shaft (i.e. still at the same 'o'clock' position relative to each other).Remember to re-key to the long 3rd pins position as it was
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Re: Steering column shaft flange that the planetary gear posts mount
A big advantage to shortening the shaft at the bottom end is you get an unworn shaft section at the lower steering bracket bronze bushing.
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