Original Warford Transmission Mount Information

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Original Warford Transmission Mount Information

Post by David Greenlees » Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:24 pm

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The photo above contains a late Warford transmission cross member and the clamps that fasten it to the frame. The image below shows where it is located in relation to the transmission.

I'm looking for a photo or illustration that shows the transmission mount itself, which is fastened to the bottom of the cross member and then to the rear of the gearbox or the rear flange.

I want to try to find a mount or fabricate an authentic reproduction, and knowing exactly what it looks like would be helpful. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.
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Re: Original Warford Transmission Mount Information

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:33 pm

Some links with photos and different styles
Warford cross member for use with the cast iron case version with the front U-joint.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/98538.html
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Some types and the diagram http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/59 ... 1463157685
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http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/11 ... 1268073279
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Re: Original Warford Transmission Mount Information

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:49 pm

I see the wisdom of clamping the mount to the frame rather than drilling holes. Frames are their weakest in that location and drilled holes can cause cracking and breaking there. I have seen several broken around added holes. I didn't realize that when I drilled my frame. Almost 50 years have passed with no problem but it hasn't seen the rough roads that were so common in the '20s and '30s. It would be good to keep that in mind.
It's nice to see how they were mounted.
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Re: Original Warford Transmission Mount Information

Post by Craig Leach » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:02 pm

Here are a few posts from the past, the one is bolted threw the frame flange but if made longer could be clamped. The most important things are support & flexibility so you don't make a stiff place in the frame that's as bad as drilling holes in the frame. Model T frames have lots of holes in them. I would not drill holes in the frame larger than any hole that Ford put in the frame. Holes should be as smooth as you can get to prevent cracking. I may be incorrect but I don't think there are any holes larger that 3/8" and should any closer to the bend in the flange than Ford did.
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Re: Original Warford Transmission Mount Information

Post by Craig Leach » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:05 pm

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/257047.html
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