Side Curtain Snaps
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Side Curtain Snaps
Does anyone know what the tool looks like to stake this type of rivet? These photos are from a '13-14 front side curtain in bad condition.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
A normal tube rivet tool you are familiar with has a center raised tit.
The type that splits the tube has radiating raised edges. Looks like a daisy.
I have seen them in those large foot operated brake riveting machines.
The type that splits the tube has radiating raised edges. Looks like a daisy.
I have seen them in those large foot operated brake riveting machines.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
They are called "Tubular Rivets". The shank is hollow to a certain depth depending on the thickness of the materials being riveted together.
The die used is called a "Tubular Rivet Setter" or "Splash Anvil" (see photos below). I bought one on ebay for $29 with shipping. It is for rivets with a 1/8" dia. shank.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/112173068097?h ... R7C7l7zbYA
The "Tubular Rivet Setter" can be used in an Arbor Press, or used by hand with a hammer, with a little finessing.
Here is a link to a youtube.com video showing how it is done. "How to Set Tubular Rivets in Leather".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2B64jbXezk
The die used is called a "Tubular Rivet Setter" or "Splash Anvil" (see photos below). I bought one on ebay for $29 with shipping. It is for rivets with a 1/8" dia. shank.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/112173068097?h ... R7C7l7zbYA
The "Tubular Rivet Setter" can be used in an Arbor Press, or used by hand with a hammer, with a little finessing.
Here is a link to a youtube.com video showing how it is done. "How to Set Tubular Rivets in Leather".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2B64jbXezk
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
That die does a nice job. Pretty.
Larry cant use such a tool to set rivets. This would be an "over restoration."
Original Smith has a reputation to uphold.
Larry cant use such a tool to set rivets. This would be an "over restoration."
Original Smith has a reputation to uphold.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
I appreciate the response to my post. The average T guy would never care about such a thing, but I like to know that stuff! Thanks.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
Somebody has to care. I tip my hat to you.Original Smith wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:01 amI appreciate the response to my post. The average T guy would never care about such a thing, but I like to know that stuff! Thanks.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
I too enjoy knowing these kinds of things whether I need to or not.
Even more, I really like everything about the photos you posted. That old stuff is truly beautiful.
Thanks
Rich
Even more, I really like everything about the photos you posted. That old stuff is truly beautiful.
Thanks
Rich
When did I do that?
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
I'll second John's and Rich's comment.
Thank you for sharing these important details with us Larry.
McMaster-Carr or Big Flats Rivet Company may have the tool you need.
Mike.
Thank you for sharing these important details with us Larry.
McMaster-Carr or Big Flats Rivet Company may have the tool you need.
Mike.
Knowledge that isn't shared, is wasted knowledge.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
I think a semi tubular rivet would work just fine?
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps
I received the new rivet setting tool pictured above yesterday. I'm glad I posted this question. I've been doing riveting all my life, and never heard of this tool. This is the real purpose of this forum.