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Side Curtain Snaps

Post by Original Smith » Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:58 pm

Does anyone know what the tool looks like to stake this type of rivet? These photos are from a '13-14 front side curtain in bad condition.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by speedytinc » Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:37 pm

A normal tube rivet tool you are familiar with has a center raised tit.
The type that splits the tube has radiating raised edges. Looks like a daisy.
I have seen them in those large foot operated brake riveting machines.


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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by Tony Delbianco » Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:23 pm

They are called "Tubular Rivets". The shank is hollow to a certain depth depending on the thickness of the materials being riveted together.
The die used is called a "Tubular Rivet Setter" or "Splash Anvil" (see photos below). I bought one on ebay for $29 with shipping. It is for rivets with a 1/8" dia. shank.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/112173068097?h ... R7C7l7zbYA

The "Tubular Rivet Setter" can be used in an Arbor Press, or used by hand with a hammer, with a little finessing.

Here is a link to a youtube.com video showing how it is done. "How to Set Tubular Rivets in Leather".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2B64jbXezk
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by speedytinc » Fri Aug 26, 2022 4:44 pm

That die does a nice job. Pretty.
Larry cant use such a tool to set rivets. This would be an "over restoration."
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by Original Smith » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:01 am

I appreciate the response to my post. The average T guy would never care about such a thing, but I like to know that stuff! Thanks.


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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by speedytinc » Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:54 am

Original Smith wrote:
Sat Aug 27, 2022 11:01 am
I appreciate the response to my post. The average T guy would never care about such a thing, but I like to know that stuff! Thanks.
Somebody has to care. I tip my hat to you.

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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:16 pm

I too enjoy knowing these kinds of things whether I need to or not.
Even more, I really like everything about the photos you posted. That old stuff is truly beautiful.
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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by modeltspaz » Sat Aug 27, 2022 1:34 pm

I'll second John's and Rich's comment.

Thank you for sharing these important details with us Larry.

McMaster-Carr or Big Flats Rivet Company may have the tool you need.

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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by Original Smith » Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:52 am

I think a semi tubular rivet would work just fine?


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Re: Side Curtain Snaps

Post by Original Smith » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:32 am

I received the new rivet setting tool pictured above yesterday. I'm glad I posted this question. I've been doing riveting all my life, and never heard of this tool. This is the real purpose of this forum.

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