Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

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Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by FATMAN » Fri May 12, 2023 2:36 pm

I have looked through all of Bruces's books and it only shows very early ones, does anyone have photos of the non-generator covers there are quite a few differences, thank you, Bob


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Re: Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by John kuehn » Fri May 12, 2023 2:55 pm

Pictures of the front timing covers would probably be in one of Gail Rodda’s T parts ID books. Lang’s and others use to sell them but I don’t know if they are still avaliable. Maybe someone on the forum has one but I don’t. Hope it can help.
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Re: Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by FATMAN » Fri May 12, 2023 3:04 pm

I looked in Gails book, not in there but thank you, Bob

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Re: Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by Steve Jelf » Fri May 12, 2023 3:29 pm

There are pictures (not very good ones) in some of the parts books.
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Re: Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by FATMAN » Fri May 12, 2023 3:36 pm

thank you, I found it on the old forum, Bob
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Re: Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by TRDxB2 » Fri May 12, 2023 4:02 pm

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John F. Regan on Thursday, January 16, 2014 - 01:20 am:
There were at least 6 unless the early water pump car had a different one and then there were 6. The factory number of 690 came later and the D suffix would indicate then 4 of those. 1910 used a coil spring fan tensioner, 1911 used a vertical bolt tensioner, early 1912 oiler timer used a cover with no oil filler hole, 1912 and later used the cover with no generator mounting, 1919 then had a generator mounting...not sure what happens in the middle... and then the last one had no adjuster for the fan at all since it used the eccentric.
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Re: Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by Allan » Fri May 12, 2023 9:06 pm

Somewhere in the development of these, the following changes were made. They are not often shown in photographs. The earlier ones had a double wall around the camshaft hole which dictated the use of a felt seal to be stuffed in the hole. Later versions opened up the hole so that a proper oil seal could be installed, like the ones we use to replace the second incarnation of the felt seal. Sometime in that development time, the grove for the crankshaft seal was changed to accommodate a wider seal like the generator style cars used. These changes are not as noticeable as those made to the oil spout.

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Re: Does anyone have some photos of the changes in the front timing covers

Post by Original Smith » Sat May 13, 2023 11:10 am

They made a change in 1915 that I like, and doesn't appear above I think. The 1915 still has the short spout like a 1913, but allows us to use a modern camshaft seal. The longer spout came about 1917, which allows the owner to pour in oil at a faster rate.

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