Steering bracket question

[FATMAN]

I have quite a few steering brackets and most have just the number or number and Ford script, I just found this one has 2 sets of numbers and Ford is in block letters, Gails book does not show this, any ideas what year this might have been used? Bob

[DanTreace]

The T-932B is the bracket for 1917-1925.

Could be non-Ford mfg, as Ford would use trademark script on this part beginning 1919-to-1925.

[Rich P. Bingham]

Perhaps this isn't relevant. This bracket is on an original 1914 column.

[DanTreace]

Relevant to this discussion on T -932B brackets

Your’s is correct ‘raised’ cast numerals , on the underside of the barrel, reading away from the dope cup hole end, this style is 1913 to early 1915.

Later 1915- 1917 styles the numerals are cast ‘depressed’ into the underside of the barrel, but alignment is different, as they read toward the dope cup end.

Most later 1917- to maybe early 1919? styles are similar, but now the cast-depressed in numerals are on the top side of the barrel, and read toward the pitman arm end.

All the other T-932B to 1925 are mostly same, but now a Ford script and numerals are cast depressed into the top side flat area between the barrel and the mounting plate.


Bob’s unusual T-932B has those cast depressed numerals, on the underside , like ‘15-early ‘17, but the T is odd with serf on the letter, and run opposite direction, plus the casting hollow depression seems different shape. And oddly another set of numerals with Ford in block , not on the top side of the barrel, but like later ‘19-‘25 on the top side of the flat.

Either Bob’s is aftermarket, or is transition piece around 1919 when Ford got serious on marking with Ford script on parts, could be a supplier put block Ford letters on top side in tooling practice to see how the marking should look in the final change to location on the top side flat area.

[Rich P. Bingham]

Thanks Dan ! Out of curiosity, what was the "B" difference, and when did it occur ?

[Original Smith]

My '13 touring has a one piece brass bushing. When did they stop that?

[DanTreace]

Thanks Dan ! Out of curiosity, what was the "B" difference, and when did it occur ?

Rich

Direct info from Professor of All Things Model T :


Re: T932B Lower steering bracket variations
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Post by TrentB » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:42 am

The T-932-B Steering Gear Bracket is only used on 1911 though 1925 cars (and 1926-27 bare chassis). It’s predecessor, T-932, is used on 1909 and 1910 cars only. The principle difference between the two steering gear brackets is the angle of the Steering Gear Shaft bore. The ‘09-10 bracket angle is 42 degrees 56 minutes while the 1911 and later brackets have a slightly shallower angle of 41 degrees 26 minutes. Consequently the two brackets are not interchangeable (without modification).

In addition to the slightly steeper angle of the T-932 bracket it can also be identified by the absence of the boss for the grease cup. This is clearly shown in the picture above. The boss was added in June 1910 and the T-932-B was introduced about 6 weeks later. So almost all steering gear brackets for 1909-1910 cars lack the grease cup boss.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess


And a great photo by Kim Dobbins, showing 09-10, late '10 and then the '11 with the "B" change of July-Aug 1910:

[DanTreace]

My '13 touring has a one piece brass bushing. When did they stop that?

Larry

The Price List of Parts for Factory # T-932B bracket, shows Factory # T-944 bushing , 3 15/16" length listed for '09-'14, 1 per car.

After that set of 2 bushings listed as 944 + 5027.

After April 1921 the upper 5027 was dropped with a re-design of the T-932B bracket and only the lower 944 bushing used.