Removing the #3317 driven gear: Am I doing it wrong?

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Removing the #3317 driven gear: Am I doing it wrong?

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:23 pm

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I've done this before, but maybe I've slipped a cog. Seems like this thing doesn't want to budge. Am I forgetting something?
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Post by Kerry » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:49 pm

Some can just be a pain, even using a puller twice the size of yours, lucky I have many spare ones because sometimes the only way to get the sucker off is with heat, even slicing with a hot stick.


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Post by Jack Putnam, in Ohio » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:54 pm

Screw the puller extra tight, add a big hammer blow to the end of the screw. Repeat as needed.

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Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:28 pm

Got it.

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Post by George Mills » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:39 pm

I’d concur with Jack P suggestion.

When I was ‘young’ someone made the same suggestion to me. In for a nickle, in for a dime what did I know? They told me to go so tight it was just before the center wanted to cock...and then every time I walked by it rap it with a 3 pound maul. Same advice, do it as many times as necessary. I did it diligently and was fast becoming a non-believer.

While eating lunch the following weekend at a table just in the house with only the screen door between...there was a sound like someone threw a really big rock at the main garage door. I ran out, there was the 3 jaw laying lazy...mission accomplished!


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Post by Dan McEachern » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:50 pm

They can be pretty stubborn at times. A Ford puller is best but. . .
Put pressure on it with your puller and heat the ROUND portion CAREFULLY and SLOWLY with a torch. Usually a very small amount of heat will allow the gear to pop loose, and from there its a steady pull to remove it.

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Post by CudaMan » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:56 pm

I have a puller just like your big one. It used to be my "go to" persuader until I got my press. :)
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Post by Allan » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:00 pm

My favourite tool is an hydraulic/grease filled puller.Their power is greater than a screw type, and it is applied in smaller, smoother increments. I have never found a gear which will not immediately succumb to its persuasion.

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Post by John M Maslack » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:20 pm

They can be a real bear...That one is worth having the right puller...


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Post by Stephen_heatherly » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:10 pm

I have a ford driven gear puller. I put the puller on the gear and then clamp one of the arms tight in the vice. I had one gear so tight I had to hang on the end of my 3 foot long cheater pipe to get it to pop loose. They can be a bear to remove.

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Post by ABoer » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:38 am

I use this homemade puller with great succes .
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Post by RajoRacer » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:21 am

Stevens Speed-Up Tools also made a puller similar to Toons.


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Post by Original Smith » Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:03 pm

There is nothing better than a genuine Ford script driven gear puller. I see them frequently for sale on ebay from $25-$50. I was lucky when I got mine when the price was around $10. Been using it for over 55+ years. As mentioned above, a sharp blow with a hammer will usually break them loose.

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Post by TFan » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:17 pm

Larry, could you post a picture of yours. Thanks Jim
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Post by wayne sheldon » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:08 am

Like Dan McEachern says. The last past one I removed was in beautiful condition, so I wanted to use it and not damage the gear in any way. I put a LOT of pressure on it with a good (fairly large!) gear puller, and it wasn't budging a bit! And I hit the puller with one of the largest ball-peen hammers I have, and it didn't budge. So I got the torch out. Left the puller under considerable pressure, began heating the gear carefully with the torch, careful to not put any heat on the drum it was stuck to, then hit it lightly with a medium hammer. The thing popped loose. I shut off the torch, cranked wildly with a big wrench on the puller, and the gear slid of easily. It wasn't even hot enough to to not pick it up in my fingers (It has been measured! I can pick up something that is 160 degrees Fahrenheit.) Nowhere near hot enough to hurt the gear. It actually gets hotter than that in a running engine. It often doesn't take much of a temperature differential to make a big difference. And usually, once these type gears break loose from where they have been for a very long time, they go the rest of the way with ease. ("Usually")


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Post by Original Smith » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:38 am

I'm not real fond of taking pictures, but the puller is shown in any Ford parts book on the tool page, and I believe it's also shown in the Ford Service book pulling a driven gear.


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Post by Mark Osterman » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:50 am

I used the original tool and then sold it thinking I would never need it again. Fingers crossed. 😮

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Post by CudaMan » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:01 am

Here's the thread where Mark O. shows the use of the OEM puller (the one he later sold). :)

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Post by Steve Jelf » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:15 pm

The Ford puller is 4006, 1936X, 3Z-611, or 5Z-326 depending on when it was made.

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Post by John Warren » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:35 pm

Wow Anthonie, that is a nicely built puller. Steve I would definitely check the oil lines and all oil holes for debris. Good luck on everything.
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Post by Randall strickland » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:13 pm

Hard to beat this type of puller !!
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