I have been trying to narrow down what I picked up this weekend for a project I have. It was on the front of a TT frame but the castle nuts on the spring holder didn’t even have a key in it so it was probably swapped out at one point.
Axle T-202 with a W without a circle on it no ford logo found on it.
Steel oiler caps on the top of the spindles or what is left of them.
Spring hanger had oiling holes.
Shackles are the two halves type.
Two piece spindles with the flat sides
Driver side spindle arm t 270 B
Passenger side spindle arm T 282
Has wood spoke center hubs.
Looks like flat metal was added to the top to raise the spring and no leather isolater was there unless it was stuck to the frame.
I also picked up a front spring and a rear spring from him.
Next weekend I will likely go back and purchase one set of wire rims from him. I am unsure of the size right now. And a complete rear end assembly from him to have one on hand.
I have been doing a lot of reading and still got a lot more to narrow it down to see if these spindles and arms are all matched and compatable set.
ID’ing front end set up.
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ADOR
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ID’ing front end set up.
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Wayne Sheldon
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Re: ID’ing front end set up.
The front spring is a messed up put-together super heavy duty (I have a similar one in my pile). You would need to take it apart to see how many leaves are straight and decent enough to be used. I see some that are broken halves (must be drilled for the center bolt). There may or may not be enough good pieces to make one good spring. Otherwise, it is good parts to repair another spring. The broken halves may also be useful. The ends can be cleaned up on a good grinder to make shorter top leaves.
The tie rod appears to be an earlier (pre-1919) style which makes it a bit more desirable. The T-202 axle is the common for most years axle. A T/W in a couple forms (superimposed, stacked, in a diamond) maker's mark is Transue/Williams, one of the larger makers of Ford's front axles for many years. A "W"by itself I believe is another maker of lower numbers of axles, but I do not recall the name offhand. All in all looks like a good catch of decent parts. You might even find a wheel bearing or two may be usable?
The tie rod appears to be an earlier (pre-1919) style which makes it a bit more desirable. The T-202 axle is the common for most years axle. A T/W in a couple forms (superimposed, stacked, in a diamond) maker's mark is Transue/Williams, one of the larger makers of Ford's front axles for many years. A "W"by itself I believe is another maker of lower numbers of axles, but I do not recall the name offhand. All in all looks like a good catch of decent parts. You might even find a wheel bearing or two may be usable?
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Re: ID’ing front end set up.
Wayne's summery is great. Only can add that 'W'only maybe the combined mark used by Transue/Williams, one symbol they used is a mark with a bold W with a T stamped over the center of the W.
On a rusted up part that upper cross of the T may be obscured, showing only the wide W.
On a rusted up part that upper cross of the T may be obscured, showing only the wide W.
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ADOR
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Re: ID’ing front end set up.
I am off working in another state at the moment and ran across a for sale ad for a old home made trailer and noticed model t ford axle front and rear. When meeting with the owner he pointed out the front axles on that trailer had been narrowed by cutting in the middle and rewelding. He had purchased it to get he running model A engine off of it for his project. It was connected to a welder at one time. I have been studying the differences in the Model A vs Model T wire wheels to compare to the wire wheels on the trailer to see if it happens to have the right wire wheel hubs on it. It still has springs on it that could be saved as well.
I will be going back to look at that again, going to look at the TT frame again to see if I want it. If it has a VIN number on it I may go ahead and get it. ( I know 26 adn 27 only if it has it on the frame) My home state is a real pain on titling stuff. I had a court order before on a mustang I had got out of the weeds and the DMV in Baton Rouge still denied me a title on it.
Main items I will be looking at is he has 4 or 5 model t rear end setup's, three of them look to be complete. I have been looking up the info each night when I get off work on spotting a 26 to 27 year model rearend with the larger bigger brakes IF he happens to have one, also I will be looking at his assortment of rims. He pointed out some wire rims he had and said they were model T, No I just have to see what inch they are and look to see if they are flat or have the raised star on them.
I am getting parts for two different projects. I have just a really rough body for a 1926 touring body that I would like to put together, and I have a rough 25 or earlier frame that was partly under the ground and used as a clothesline in it's life, the metal held up good but the front cross member needs a little help. I was looking at making it look like a speedster but powered by a gokart engine for out in the yard. This front axle saves me from having to fabricate something out of tube.
The axle turns locks to lock but the hub bearings are locked up. I am going to be working on taking it apart over the next few days for cleanup and painting all the parts.
Thank you for your help on dating it, I would of got it done but it would of been a little while, lol.
I will be going back to look at that again, going to look at the TT frame again to see if I want it. If it has a VIN number on it I may go ahead and get it. ( I know 26 adn 27 only if it has it on the frame) My home state is a real pain on titling stuff. I had a court order before on a mustang I had got out of the weeds and the DMV in Baton Rouge still denied me a title on it.
Main items I will be looking at is he has 4 or 5 model t rear end setup's, three of them look to be complete. I have been looking up the info each night when I get off work on spotting a 26 to 27 year model rearend with the larger bigger brakes IF he happens to have one, also I will be looking at his assortment of rims. He pointed out some wire rims he had and said they were model T, No I just have to see what inch they are and look to see if they are flat or have the raised star on them.
I am getting parts for two different projects. I have just a really rough body for a 1926 touring body that I would like to put together, and I have a rough 25 or earlier frame that was partly under the ground and used as a clothesline in it's life, the metal held up good but the front cross member needs a little help. I was looking at making it look like a speedster but powered by a gokart engine for out in the yard. This front axle saves me from having to fabricate something out of tube.
The axle turns locks to lock but the hub bearings are locked up. I am going to be working on taking it apart over the next few days for cleanup and painting all the parts.
Thank you for your help on dating it, I would of got it done but it would of been a little while, lol.