Spring perch

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Jfmarkham
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Spring perch

Post by Jfmarkham » Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:29 pm

Has anyone ever tried to mount a new style wishbone on old style spring perch? I have old style and there is 3/4 inch of threaded shank below the axel, would like to not change them if I could


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Re: Spring perch

Post by Jim Sims » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:22 pm

T;hat is not enough room to get the cotter pin in place. When using the after market wish bone with both the ols style and the accessory, I use the driveshaft pinion nut.

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Re: Spring perch

Post by CudaMan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:38 pm

I too recall seeing folks talk about using a pair of shorter rear axle pinion nuts. :)
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Re: Spring perch

Post by Allan » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:20 pm

The correct nut for the under axle later wishbone has a tapered base which sits in a tapered hole at the attachment point, so a pinion nut should have the same taper machined on it. Without that taper, you are missing out on two or three rounds of thread engagement on a length of thread already compromised by the shorter thread on the earlier perch. I would rather use a standard later tapered perch nut and the appropriate Loktite thread locker.

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Re: Spring perch

Post by Stephen_heatherly » Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:35 pm

I personally would install an accessory wishbone brace instead of using a later wishbone with the earlier perches. As has been mentioned before, the holes in the wishbone are tapered and will not accept a flat nut. The earlier perches won't stick through enough to get the full nut on and you wouldn't be able to use cotter pins. With a wishbone brace and a couple drive shaft pinion nuts, it'll work much better.
Stephen

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