Hi,
I just stumpled over this old photo from the city of Aalborg in Denmark:
It is the car to the left that looks like a T, but maybe with a local build Torpedo body?
If you know what the other car is, feel free to share.
ID of car - is it an early Model T torpedo?
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ID of car - is it an early Model T torpedo?
Ford Model T 1914 Touring
Ford Model T 1921 Roadster Pick-up
Ford Model T 1922 Fordor (danish build body)
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Ford Model T 1921 Roadster Pick-up
Ford Model T 1922 Fordor (danish build body)
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Re: ID of car - is it an early Model T torpedo?
Looks like a 1911 Open Runabout with an after market cowl , doors & windshield .
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Re: ID of car - is it an early Model T torpedo?
Guten tag, Michael,
It is not a typical USA built torpedo. Although the fenders look like they may be? The cowl? USA 1911 torpedo model Ts did not have a cowl. The windshield is wrong, and the door and seat and how they meet, although similar, is not right either.
I would suspect the photo was taken near your part of the world? You did say Denmark. The model T is most likely either an English or European continental built variant of the USA model T. England built model Ts in the brass era which tended to be much more elaborate and fancy than USA built cars. And offhand, I do not recall which nation it was? However, one of the Northern Danish/Swedish region nations also had a small factory then that used both England and USA manufactured parts to build European variations. That model T could be from either of those two sources.
The other car, I couldn't quite make out enough detail to be sure? However, it looks like it could be a gasoline model White automobile. White had been building steam powered automobiles for about a decade, then moved toward gasoline powered about 1910. Again, being from that part of the world, there were a number of British and European manufacturers that had a similar radiator to the American White. In American street scenes, that radiator would automatically be assumed to be a White. In a European street scene, there are a few other likely possibilities.
While a lot of British and European automobiles were imported to the USA during those years, the ones with radiators similar to the White were not common here. White did export a lot of automobiles to Europe.
It is not a typical USA built torpedo. Although the fenders look like they may be? The cowl? USA 1911 torpedo model Ts did not have a cowl. The windshield is wrong, and the door and seat and how they meet, although similar, is not right either.
I would suspect the photo was taken near your part of the world? You did say Denmark. The model T is most likely either an English or European continental built variant of the USA model T. England built model Ts in the brass era which tended to be much more elaborate and fancy than USA built cars. And offhand, I do not recall which nation it was? However, one of the Northern Danish/Swedish region nations also had a small factory then that used both England and USA manufactured parts to build European variations. That model T could be from either of those two sources.
The other car, I couldn't quite make out enough detail to be sure? However, it looks like it could be a gasoline model White automobile. White had been building steam powered automobiles for about a decade, then moved toward gasoline powered about 1910. Again, being from that part of the world, there were a number of British and European manufacturers that had a similar radiator to the American White. In American street scenes, that radiator would automatically be assumed to be a White. In a European street scene, there are a few other likely possibilities.
While a lot of British and European automobiles were imported to the USA during those years, the ones with radiators similar to the White were not common here. White did export a lot of automobiles to Europe.
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Re: ID of car - is it an early Model T torpedo?
I zoomed in closer to the photo. I am fairly sure the other car is not a White. Probably European or British?
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Re: ID of car - is it an early Model T torpedo?
It appears to use the US firewall without the filler board. Also uses the 2 bolt front body bracket like US cars. So my guess is it uses the standard stringers and everything built above is to a different design. But it could be as Pete says also, a US body with custom cowl using a slightly wider firewall.
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Re: ID of car - is it an early Model T torpedo?
Going off the writing on the radiator I think the other car is a Fafnir.
There are some great photos in that archive.
There are some great photos in that archive.