Kerosene lamp questions

[Chris Bamford]

A friend is clearing our some old car stuff to make room for more clocks (go figure). He has these three lamps which look like Model T. One is marked Patent Oct 27 14.

Are these T lamps, and if so for what years, and what is a range of value? Anything else of note such the maker identified on the one chimney? Many thanks in advance.

[Steve Jelf]

Tail lamp and two side lamps. At first they looked like Ford lamps to me, but comparing to photos in the encyclopedia I'm not so sure. Are there any other markings?

[Fordwright]

I'm not sure Ford was making their own kerosene lamps at that time. It could have been a supplier that equipped several car brands also.

[Mark Gregush]

The are all Ford Model T. The one you show the top of, was used on Canadian production Fords, Cisco. Price is all over the board depending on the seller and where they are being sold. Some think they are gold. LOL Looks like two cowl and one tail light. This style was used from about 1917 to 1926 for the cowl and up to about 1923 for the tail light.

[Colin Mavins]

They are Canadian that is what is used on T's here, I have an original 1917 touring it has that brand of lights on it.

[Chris Bamford]

Thanks to all who have chimed in. My friend reports only that patent date on only two lamps. The lamp with the purple lens has no markings.

[Colin Mavins]

Mark is a faster with the keyboard.

[Mark Gregush]

I may have spelled it wrong.

[Kerry]

The cowl ones are not a matching set, so don't feel bad about selling one or all.

[Allan]

The brand is Classco, an abbreviated form of ........Stamping Company, and they are common on our Canadian sourced cars. The one with the brass top and door may be an earlier 1915 one. We need to see the shape of the reflectors inside the lamps to be sure. The round 'divers bell' reflectors were only on the early lamps, and these are more valuable than the much more common square reflector types.

Allan from down under.

[Drkbp]

Edmund & Jones, of Detroit, set up C.L.A.S.Co. to manufacture lamps for the Ford Motor Company of Canada.
The two companies shared some directors and was located at 2744 Edna in Windsor, Ontario, not far from the
Ford plant. The building nearing completion in the photo below, is still there.
They began by producing Black & Brass lamps for the 1913 Canadian Model T beginning in late 1912 or early 1913.
This expansion brought about to reduce the tariff on Edmund & Jones export of lamps across the river.
The CLASCo.lamps above were made in this building.

[Colin Mavins]

Just a note in 1912 that would have been Walkerville Ont

[Drkbp]

Thank you Colin. I wondered when I posted because I believe there was a name change, correct?
Or am I still a confused Texan

[Chris Bamford]

Great info thanks. Much appreciated