Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

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Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by Mopar_man » Tue May 25, 2021 11:16 pm

Well it always seem like when I tighten a castle nut the hole in the bolt never lines up so I have to back the nut off a bit to get the cotter-pin in. Now I know that the pin would have to fall out for the nut to come loose but I still feel like it's not tight enough. Am I being over cautious?

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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue May 25, 2021 11:31 pm

Never back a nut off. If too far from hole, try a different one or file a small amount off the back side.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by Mopar_man » Wed May 26, 2021 7:37 am

Well that's a good idea. :D


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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by R.V.Anderson » Wed May 26, 2021 9:25 am

Yup. What Mark said. In addition, if the bolt hole is above, or almost above, the castellation in the nut, put a thin washer underneath. Finally, use as large a diameter cotter pin as you can get to go in. Nearly all holes/nuts listed to take 3/32" pins will quite easily take 7/64". You want the pin to be tight in the hole.


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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by Les Schubert » Wed May 26, 2021 9:58 am

Which is why I use a torque wrench and Loktite and forget the cotter pin everywhere except the axle.


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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by John Codman » Wed May 26, 2021 10:18 am

IMHO if the manufacturer felt that a nut needs a cotter pin (more expensive then a plain nut) then it needs the cotter pin.

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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by varmint » Wed May 26, 2021 1:35 pm

Try a different nut until you find one that lines up right. They can be swapped around and when you get to the last nut in the pile, you can shave off a thousandth on the underside of the nut (rub it on the concrete floor) and try again.
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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by Hudson29 » Wed May 26, 2021 2:53 pm

Mark Gregush wrote:
Tue May 25, 2021 11:31 pm
Never back a nut off. If too far from hole, try a different one or file a small amount off the back side.
I just backed an axle nut off to get the split pin to line up. It made me somewhat nervous but I had already stood on a two foot breaker bar and didn't want to go any further. Now I'll redo it after a rub on a file.

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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by George Mills » Wed May 26, 2021 4:55 pm

The difference between castle turrents is only like 6 thou on bolt on 1/4-28 to like maybe 10-11 thou on the 7/16 or 1/2.

Tight and then a cinch to line up, you then over-pull on the wrench you just established a new seat path. Nut off and file is the only real way to do it right at that point. IMHO.


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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by kmatt2 » Wed May 26, 2021 8:59 pm

A old time T service bulletin trick is to take a file or hacksaw and mark a line in the top of the bolt aligned with the split pin hole. That way you can tell if you can align the castle with the hole or if you will have to remove a little of the back side of the nut in order to get proper tightness, ( torque ).

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Re: Some times my nuts give me an uneasy feeling.

Post by Mopar_man » Thu May 27, 2021 9:06 pm

Well that worked. I never thought of filing the back side of the nut. It took a few tries but it lined up the hole.
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