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Ruxstel24
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by Ruxstel24 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:52 pm
This stumped Mr Morsher !
Dad has Model T accessory on it.
My guess is a helper spring or travel stop of some sort.
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Mark Gregush
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by Mark Gregush » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Rebound spring/bumper. Fits on front axle under the crossmember.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!
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Dropacent
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by Dropacent » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:02 pm
I don’t know what it is but I’ll give you the $15 for it!
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by Ruxstel24 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:04 pm
Mark Gregush wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Rebound spring/bumper. Fits on front axle under the crossmember.
Thanks Mark....
What is the purpose of the teeth and being able to rotate the top half ?
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by Ruxstel24 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:06 pm
Dropacent wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:02 pm
I don’t know what it is but I’ll give you the $15 for it!
I think there’s a little inflation occurring since the price was scratched on there...
But it’s an offer !!

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by Michael Peternell » Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:19 pm
Ruxstel24 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:04 pm
Mark Gregush wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Rebound spring/bumper. Fits on front axle under the crossmember.
Thanks Mark....
What is the purpose of the teeth and being able to rotate the top half ?
Looks like overload springs designed to be adjusted according to which way your junk was worn out? Really have no clue what the teeth are about.
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by Dropacent » Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:37 pm
Mark sounds pretty sure. BUT, I’d like to see it clamped on the front axle somehow first. I’m not seeing it.
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by Mark Gregush » Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:36 am
Dropacent wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:37 pm
Mark sounds pretty sure. BUT, I’d like to see it clamped on the front axle somehow first. I’m not seeing it.
LOL Naw, just a guess.
Re the teeth, we know how they liked to make things back in the day, that were overly complicated, to do a simple job, making the product look more better.

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by RajoRacer » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:04 am
WAG - rotating the gizmo's "teeth" adjusted the coil spring tension ???
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by perry kete » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:10 am
I would guess that it is an early type of "helper spring" attached to a truck or car axle just under the frame so when someone was hauling a heavy load it would assist the springs in supporting the extra weight.
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by Jerry VanOoteghem » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:13 am
I'm not at all convinced it's for a Model T.
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by VanEpsFan1914 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:26 am
RajoRacer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:04 am
WAG - rotating the gizmo's "teeth" adjusted the coil spring tension ???
This is how you adjust the carriage shifter of an Underwood No. 5 manual typewriter.
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by TRDxB2 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:35 am
I don't think this is a Model T accessory either,. The coiled spring with a rubber pad on top might be a form of a "bump stop". The bracket would be clamped to something round. Axle or torque tube an a Model T? But where ?
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by Dropacent » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:36 am
I’m with Jerry on this one. I love mysteries and this one was in my dreams last night trying to figure it out. iF the bolts were longer, would the castings sit in the top and bottom of the differential housing? The grooves could seat on the ridge of the casting? Why make it rotate? I dunno. If an overload gizmo at that point, the rubber pad would hit the spring center bolt, not so good. You can check that and get back. There are only so many places on Lizzie to mount a gizmo like that. Dave H, with that intricate mechanism, there is a good chance of some makers marks, numbers, patent data cast or stamped somewhere on it. Ms. Janet Block would love to find the patent info for it. Maybe dad was just screwing with us, having* a good laugh right now.
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by Ruxstel24 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:06 pm
Dropacent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:36 am
Dave H, with that intricate mechanism, there is a good chance of some makers marks, numbers, patent data cast or stamped somewhere on it. Ms. Janet Block would love to find the patent info for it. Maybe dad was just screwing with us, having* a good laugh right now.
I’ll look for any markings...
Tim, you have to had known my dad, you’re probably right, he’s sayin... “look at those idiots”

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by Dropacent » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:58 pm
Ok, my new guess is a Body Budy ( thanks dave ! ). I could see this on a vehicle placed one one side of an axle ,adjustable to have the rubber bumper directly under the spring. The grooves would allow placement over hydraulic lines top or bottom of the axle. An overload condition would then keep the spring from being overloaded. If you find the mate, I’ll up my offer to $30 for my E-pup. I’d feel better about abusing the payload. Perhaps Dad was right, but meant Diamond T. Still just a guess , though.
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by Ruxstel24 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:51 pm
Yes, it says Body BUDY Co on the clamp.
It does seem to fit the driveshaft spool.
It would hit the floor pan underneath the rear seat.
I don’t think it would fit between the spring and the axle tube Tim.
Definitely no room for it on the front either.