Tail Light Model 25P

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
ryanf1023
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:24 pm
First Name: Ryan
Last Name: Fenrich
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedster Project
Location: Edmonton

Tail Light Model 25P

Post by ryanf1023 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:37 pm

I got this tail light from a box of miscellaneous parts from the major donor to my Model T project. I’m guessing there is a clear lens that goes here. Any input? I’m planning to use this as a brake light (perhaps LED) as I have an oil lamp as my tail light.
Attachments
78101BC5-E966-4094-866A-9453676C2CB3.jpeg
730616CF-E7E5-44EA-8FFB-B0F2D8A02A8A.jpeg
1422EDB8-E2C4-4B4E-A00B-BC4493C45CB8.jpeg


sweet23
Posts: 516
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:19 pm
First Name: Darryl
Last Name: Bobzin
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 2, '25 T Runabouts, '14 Touring
Location: Kannapolis,NC
Board Member Since: 2016

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by sweet23 » Tue Aug 17, 2021 7:40 pm

it is just a clear plastic lens that fits inside. It is available from the vendors

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3812
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘12 open express,'23 cutoff, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by DanTreace » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:04 pm

Or just make your own clear lens for the license plate illumination.

A clear plastic bottle has just the right curve on the sides, a sharp pair of scissors, and quickly you have a slip in lens. The curve plastic trimmed to length to fit the tabs in the cup. Trim length just right and the tension holds your new replacement lens just like factory. :D
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford

User avatar

ewdysar
Posts: 292
Joined: Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:48 pm
First Name: Eric
Last Name: D
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster #32, 1916 Touring, 1927 Runabout
Location: Greater Portland area

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by ewdysar » Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:34 pm

If you are planning on using this one as a brake light, then you should block this window with metal or if you use a lens, paint it black. The side facing window is intended to provide constant light for your license plate from the tail light. If you leave it clear, you will get a bright light shining wherever you point the window every time that you apply the brakes. At best, it will look weird, or worse, confusing or distracting to the driver behind you. The vendors sell a version of this light without the side window that is more appropriate for brake lights.

Keep crankin’
Eric

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 7237
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:54 am

I recently adapted a couple of similar lights I intend to use for brake/tail lights. I filled the side openings with pieces of can and covered them with body solder. I haven't done enough of that kind of work to be good at it, but I think they turned out OK for a first attempt.

IMG_6232 copy.JPG
IMG_6248 copy.JPG
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring


Allan
Posts: 6609
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:21 pm
First Name: Allan
Last Name: Bennett
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1912 van, 1917 shooting brake, 1929 roadster buckboard, 1924 tourer, 1925 barn find buckboard, 1925 D &F wide body roadster, 1927LHD Tudor sedan.
Location: Gawler, Australia

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by Allan » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:06 am

I use a pair of them for brake and tail lights. Your US lights make a matching pair with our RHD lights. Dan's side window treatment is the easy answer to filling the number plate hole. Leaving it clear is of no real consequence. To use them as brake and tail lights, you need to fit a pair of double contact headlight sockets. The white paint in the interior makes them much more visible through the typically dark original lenses.

Allan from down under.

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3812
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘12 open express,'23 cutoff, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by DanTreace » Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:34 am

As Allan posted, using the clear plastic fabricated lens for the opening. When you spray paint the inside of the lamp housing white for best illumination, that blanks out and makes the clear opaque, so no wrecking a good rear lamp for the purpose of making a stop lamp!


DC0FEA42-105C-4ED0-8AFF-C4E05396D6A1.jpeg
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 7237
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:02 am

...no wrecking a good rear lamp for the purpose of making a stop lamp!

No wrecking involved. Solder melts. The patch can be removed easily enough. :)
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3812
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: ‘12 open express,'23 cutoff, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by DanTreace » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:16 pm

Steve

Just poking fun at your solution, actually you did a splendid job! Too Good!

In fact, years from now someone will come upon your Ford tail lamp housing and declare it a "rare" factory error.....no license light opening :lol:
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford


Topic author
ryanf1023
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:24 pm
First Name: Ryan
Last Name: Fenrich
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedster Project
Location: Edmonton

Re: Tail Light Model 25P

Post by ryanf1023 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:21 pm

I appreciate the replies, thank you.

Interesting approach Steve. Perhaps I’ll try the same.

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic