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Clock mount question.

Post by John Heaman » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:29 pm

l purchased a vintage clock and it’s mounted on a plinth using its original mount and l don’t know how to remove it. I’m unable to contact the seller presently. Anyone with this style of clock could you enlighten me please.

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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Rich Eagle » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:38 pm

Do you know it's maker's name. It may mount similar to this one.
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Perhaps a twist will unlatch it.
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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Dropacent » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:52 pm

If it has a little brass plug on the bottom edge, remove the plug and use a straight screwdriver to loosen from the mount.


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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by John Heaman » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:07 pm

The clock case is perfectly smooth. The bezel unscrews to reveal ‘Made In USA’. I have an idea (except the seller forgot to send the key, but will after Easter), perhaps what l thought was the ‘slow/fast’ setting above the 12 is possibly a screw fastening the clock to the mount!?

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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Dropacent » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:18 pm

I’ll bet that’s it.


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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by John Heaman » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pm

Rich Eagle wrote:
Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:38 pm
Do you know it's maker's name?
l know it’s not Timex because it wasn’t set for 10 to 2.
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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by perry kete » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:33 pm

If it was a Timex you could call John Camron Swazey!
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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Scott_Conger » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:40 pm

Well, if it's the one sold by Hemswell, they said they mounted it, so they should know how to dismount it.

That said, there are 4 screws holding the assembly into the housing (one screw is missing and will likely be located inside)

It has been many years since I've serviced one of these, but I seem to recall that the gizmo at "12" should be the fast/slow adjusting arbor, which is attached to a stamped brass gear which advances or retards the hairspring regulator pins and is adjusted using the key. FWIW, these were pretty much worthless in the '70s and only because I was an apprentice at the time would I even fool with one. No one in the trade earning a living would be able to get $25 to repair a $2 clock. Lots of them went to the dump. Fortunately, benign neglect allowed yours to escape that fate!
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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Don » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:10 pm

Scott, I have a New Haven Clock that is very similar to yours. The fast/slow adjustment is in the slot located from 1:00 to 2:00. Use a key to turn the stem at 12:00 that secures a bar on the back of the clock. That bar has screws that attaches to the wood. Don Azevedo


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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Scott_Conger » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:21 pm

Don

if that's the case, then I'm sure I've never seen this model and appreciate the interesting info. Always something new to learn. Thank you.
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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Larry » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:26 pm

John I have the same clock and can send you a picture of the back of it if you haven’t figured it out yet.


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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Larry » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:30 pm

Looks like you:
1. turn the bezel off counterclockwise
2Remove the four small brass screws holding the works in the case.
3. Remove the screw at the 12 o’clock position in the case which is probably holding it to the wood. Then push down on the case as it attaches to a clip on the bottom.


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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Larry » Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:31 pm

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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by John Heaman » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:13 am

Larry, l can’t thank you enough for your explanation and taking the time to photograph your clock! It’s a breeze with your information! Thanks again!! John
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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Dropacent » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:54 am

Wonderful pics, Larry. Nice accessory clock ! I’m going back in my memory brain, and I had one years ago just like it. I remember now making the mounting strip and the mounting screw before I sold it. I’ll bet originally it had a special mounting screw that would have a square drive, same as the winding stem. It likely would have had a shoulder near the threads of the screw that would have held it to the bracket. I doubt originally you would have had to remove the movement to install. I could see that as problematic for the original buyer. JMHO
Jay just sold a really neat clock, one I’ve never seen before, in person OR print.


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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Larry » Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:41 pm

Tim,
I hope all is well with you!
You have a good memory! And I think you are right about the screw at the top. I never even thought about that or looked close enough to see that you could access the screw without removing the works since mine is missing that screw.
I hope John sees this as he will not have to remove the works to access that screw. If it is a square head, he will certainly need the key to remove it or a very small socket will work.


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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Dropacent » Sun Apr 17, 2022 1:26 pm

Another fingernail drawing. All good here, Larry!
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Re: Clock mount question.

Post by Larry » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:49 pm

Found another one of these clocks sitting on the shelf this afternoon and wanted to confirm what Tim said. The screw has a hex head and the key removes it.
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