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Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by Unprr » Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:50 am

Has anyone installed bumpers on a pre-bumper Model T.
The attached photo shows the parts, which may not be Model T. Along with the Model T in need of the bumpers.
The brackets from the car, to the bumper, were not included.
Any help, would be appreciated.

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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by Allan » Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:14 am

With ends like that, they are like likely A model bumpers. T bumpers did not have bolts through eyes on the end of the bars. 26-7 mounting irons should work, but will need to be finessed to fit an earlier frame. There were multiple sets of accessory bars for earlier cars.

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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by Tadpole » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:07 am

Here is an aftermarket rear bumper produced for pre-26 T's. It is secured under the body mounts in the rear and clamps around the frame towards the front.
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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by TXGOAT2 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:44 am

Those look like 1928-'29 Model A bumpers. I believe some 1930 cars also used them. The radiator shell is 1928-'29 Model A passenger car. I suspect the Model A bumpers are wider and heavier than those made for the Model T. Mounting brackets would not fit the T frame. The Model A bumper bars would probably be adaptable to Model T mounting brackets.

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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by 1925 Touring » Fri Apr 29, 2022 8:57 am

What type of car is in the first picture? I have never seen anything like that before... I am new to the form however, so I am not the most experienced in identifying all of the cars. :oops: I am assuming it is a Pickup?
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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by TXGOAT2 » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:09 am

That appears to be a Swiss Army car.


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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by GG Gregory » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:19 am

Those are for sure 1928-29 Model A bumpers and Radiator shell

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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by George Mills » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:22 am

The front brackets are pretty much generic whether OEM or Western Auto. They have an over -under clip that sets on the frame and then a through bolt for an existing hole in the frame to secure them in place. Frame year doesn't matter.

The backs are similar, although I have never been able to mount a full width bar pre-market rear set of bracket irons on the Fordor with the spare in place. I believe the set of brackets I have may have started as a set of individual bumperettes...and then picked ups set of bars along the way before I rescued them.


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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by Allan » Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:50 pm

Austin, hang around here too long and you will get to see all sorts of combinations of parts from various cars to make up a road going vehicle. Yes, it is a non factory made pick-up of sorts. This one has A model wheels, and unless my eyes deceive me, the front ones are a different size to the rears, reflecting the change to 19" wheels in the later A models. The A model bumpers will not look out of place with them.

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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by Dallas Landers » Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:28 pm

Is the T hubs for wood wheels drilled for A wheels?


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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by Allan » Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:53 am

T hubs require an adapter to fit A wheels. The PCD of the A model wheels is greater than the 6 holes in a T wheel hub. The A model wheels also need to be spaced outwards.

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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by 1925 Touring » Sun May 01, 2022 12:54 pm

Allan wrote:
Fri Apr 29, 2022 7:50 pm
Austin, hang around here too long and you will get to see all sorts of combinations of parts from various cars to make up a road going vehicle. Yes, it is a non factory made pick-up of sorts. This one has A model wheels, and unless my eyes deceive me, the front ones are a different size to the rears, reflecting the change to 19" wheels in the later A models. The A model bumpers will not look out of place with them.

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I guess whatever works! I like that it has a little "class" but still retains the Model T look.
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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by Rich Eagle » Sun May 01, 2022 1:14 pm

Yep, stuff happens.
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Re: Installing Bumpers on a 1923 Model T

Post by 1925 Touring » Sun May 01, 2022 1:26 pm

I think that one may need a bit of work... :lol:
Maybe he can use the bumper for his car!
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