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New tool output.

Post by Allan » Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:01 am

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This is the first laminated bow off the new jig
There are 8 x 2.5mm laminated all up. These were added in two lots of three and a final pair.

The bends are tight. There is just 3/8" flex away from the form, on one side only. Curious!

Since these were taken, I have used a 3/8" rounding bit to rout the edges of the bow. This liberated a small breakout on one side of one corner. It is under glue and clamping instill O can finish it off.

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Re: New tool output.

Post by TXGOAT2 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:14 am

I wouldn't think the slight distance the wood sprang away from the form would be a problem. It might be because of uneven glue curing or just natural tension in the wood. Clamping the bow back in the form and applying some heat would probably eliminate it, if necessary. I wonder if the original bows were formed to their exact final shape before installation, or if they had some slight "spring" in them prior to installation. A little tension within the bow and socket assembley once installed might help prevent any rattles at the pivot points.
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Re: New tool output.

Post by Jerry VanOoteghem » Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:19 am

Nice work! I made a bow for my Overland the same way.


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Re: New tool output.

Post by Scott_Conger » Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:21 am

Very nice, Alan

thanks for sharing
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Re: New tool output.

Post by Allan » Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:26 am

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The finished product. The longest single operation was shaping the tapered ends to go into the sockets. Perhaps I was too fussy about the fit

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Post by TXGOAT2 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:39 am

A perfect fit would not cause problems,whereas a poor fit probably would. A slight crown across the middle section of the bows, once installed, might be a good thing. It would prevent any tendency of the bows to sag in the middle and prevent any puddling of rainwater. Some "spring" in the assembled bows would help keep everything tight and rattle free.


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Re: New tool output.

Post by Original Smith » Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:09 am

Why go to all that work when they are already being made?


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Re: New tool output.

Post by Scott_Conger » Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:23 am

shipping costs?

simple desire?

there are plenty of people who restore cars, so why do it themselves?

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Re: New tool output.

Post by Rich Eagle » Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:42 pm

Thanks for posting this. I bet they will work great.
I steam bent some bows and glued them where the split out, so they are laminated too. :lol:
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Re: New tool output.

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:38 pm

I built a "Portland cutter" (aka one-horse open sleigh) nearly 50 years ago, and used this method to form the "S" curve of the runners. No problems in service ever since.

( although it really hasn't seen much use owing to the lack of snow some years, the over-diligence of snow removal from the roads and the death [from old age] of two horses trained to drive )

It's the perfect solution for reproducing steam-bent items in the home shop, and if attention is paid to the grain direction of the slats, it may actually be superior to a single, steam-bent member.
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Re: New tool output.

Post by TXGOAT2 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:44 pm

You could pull it with an ATV, or better yet, a T-based Moxiemobile


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Re: New tool output.

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:58 pm

TXGOAT2 wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:44 pm
You could pull it with an ATV, or better yet, a T-based Moxiemobile
:lol: You forget, I'm a "purist". Still would need snow, packed clean. Horses I got - just need some work in harness. Global warming, prolly never have snow again ! :lol:
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Re: New tool output.

Post by Allan » Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:17 pm

Larry, with our dollar at 60 US cents, and the prohibitive costs of shipping, it is not feasible to have one hood bow sent. Besides, the quality of some is suspect. It would take just as long to fit them to the sockets, and they may not match existing top. And, i would not have a ready made jig to make others. And, most Australian T's have Australian built bodies, and these vary form state to state.

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Re: New tool output.

Post by otrcman » Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:08 pm

Alan,

In many period texts on laminating there is a note to swap successive layers end for end and to turn them over in order to discourage a split or other weak spot from progressing beyond any one single layer. That's pretty obvious, but I notice some people don't do that, but it's a good idea.

I bet you already knew that.

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Re: New tool output.

Post by CraneJon » Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:46 am

Alan
What glue did you use?
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Re: New tool output.

Post by Allan » Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:41 am

Titebond ultimate no 111 (3) It was recommended by my nephew. They use it to laminate boards before turning them into verandah posts. The bond is stronger than the timber it glues together.
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Re: New tool output.

Post by Rich P. Bingham » Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:06 pm

Sounds like a great glue Alan. Waterproof except for immersion, a "proprietary polymer". Doubtless a great improvement!

FWIW, "original" Titebond was (is) an aliphatic resin, not waterproof, old white Elmer's is PVA (polyvinyl acetate). Both have been proven in stress tests to yield glue joints stronger than the parent wood.
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