Old Photo for Rich and Rich
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Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Maybe?
I don't recall seeing this one before. I don't know for certain if it is in Idaho or not, however, the "Pocatello" Electric Supply suggests that it might be?
This was shared on the AACA forum last night.
The "Ford" scripts on the radiators coupled with low necks suggest the model Ts are likely 1909 to 1910. All of them are "fully equipped" with tops, windshields, and headlamps. The "bills" on the front fenders likely eliminate most early 1909s. Can't really tell whether the front fenders are the narrow surface 1910 style or more common later flared surface that the 1911s used.
I wonder what was happening here? So many new cars so alike? I wondered about a dealer delivery? The photo detail is limited, however I can see that several cars have at least two or three people in them. Dealer deliveries usually seemed to have only one person, the driver, per car.
And for those that may be interested. Way down at the far end of the line is a 1908 Ford model S Roadster. A one year only model, and the only model in the N/R/S lineup to have a cowl.
I don't recall seeing this one before. I don't know for certain if it is in Idaho or not, however, the "Pocatello" Electric Supply suggests that it might be?
This was shared on the AACA forum last night.
The "Ford" scripts on the radiators coupled with low necks suggest the model Ts are likely 1909 to 1910. All of them are "fully equipped" with tops, windshields, and headlamps. The "bills" on the front fenders likely eliminate most early 1909s. Can't really tell whether the front fenders are the narrow surface 1910 style or more common later flared surface that the 1911s used.
I wonder what was happening here? So many new cars so alike? I wondered about a dealer delivery? The photo detail is limited, however I can see that several cars have at least two or three people in them. Dealer deliveries usually seemed to have only one person, the driver, per car.
And for those that may be interested. Way down at the far end of the line is a 1908 Ford model S Roadster. A one year only model, and the only model in the N/R/S lineup to have a cowl.
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
The one on the left has a low neck, so is probably a 1910 model year. To the right are some with a high nexks, so probably 1911s.
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Thanks for posting this, Wayne ! I have seen this photo before, and it has always intrigued me. I can't say I have made more than a cursory effort to research it, but so far, there is little detail to explain the occasion. It is indeed Pocatello, Idaho, the first block of West Center Street, looking east. Point of interest, all of the structures from the wooden building on the alley (with the painted bulletin) eastward to the intersection with Main St. are still standing. The buildings providing the backdrop for the new Fords have long since been replaced with modern structures.
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Looks like they have too much positive camber on the front right wheels of some of the automobiles, or lose wheel bearings?
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
That must be distortion from the lens that was used, makes for strange effects , especially near the edges of the foto
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Leo v S, That was what I figured when I first looked at the photo. Having zoomed in really close, I am sure it was not a true large format camera. Large format cameras usually got high end lenses, needed for the incredible detail they record. Smaller cameras usually got cheaper lenses, and they sometimes do twist images out near the edges. (Caused by a microscopic variation in the "arc graduation" when the lens was being ground or polished.)
The camber on the front wheels should be equal. With both right and left wheels leaning the same amount in opposite directions. The "twist" in the image moved the right front wheels to straight up and down while making the left front wheels appear to lean farther than they actually did.
Thank you Bob S and Leo for your comments!
This is what I like to see here. An active discussion with comments and observations followed by additional questions or explanations. This is how we all can learn more about our cars and history in general. Maybe even some art and physics as well? I know I am still always trying to learn more!
I don't want to be the only one pointing out details!
The camber on the front wheels should be equal. With both right and left wheels leaning the same amount in opposite directions. The "twist" in the image moved the right front wheels to straight up and down while making the left front wheels appear to lean farther than they actually did.
Thank you Bob S and Leo for your comments!
This is what I like to see here. An active discussion with comments and observations followed by additional questions or explanations. This is how we all can learn more about our cars and history in general. Maybe even some art and physics as well? I know I am still always trying to learn more!
I don't want to be the only one pointing out details!
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Thanks for posting that. Like Rich said, that is Pocatello. Pocatello Electric is still there.
I have been away from my computer and am using a laptop today, so I won't be posting much tjll I get home.
Thanks,
Rich
I have been away from my computer and am using a laptop today, so I won't be posting much tjll I get home.
Thanks,
Rich
When did I do that?
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Wherever you are Rich E? I hope you are having a great time!
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Thanks Wayne. I was in the hospital for 9 days for a battery of tests. I have been lucky to survive a number of problems for 33 years but need to say no more here.
Rich B. and I lived a few blocks from that spot on Main Street above Mackenzie Auto Parts for a time while attending ISU in the '60s, so we do know it somewhat. I wish we could find out more about the lineup of Fords.
It is great to see.
I will be studying it.
Rich
Rich B. and I lived a few blocks from that spot on Main Street above Mackenzie Auto Parts for a time while attending ISU in the '60s, so we do know it somewhat. I wish we could find out more about the lineup of Fords.
It is great to see.
I will be studying it.
Rich
When did I do that?
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
To both Riches, you are a treasure trove of knowledge and experience that goes beyond this hobby. I always enjoy reading your posts. They are entertaining, informative, and you can disagree without being snide.
To Rich E, your absence the last nine days did not go unnoticed. I wish you good health and more adventures of Kalamity Dick.
John
To Rich E, your absence the last nine days did not go unnoticed. I wish you good health and more adventures of Kalamity Dick.
John
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Re: Old Photo for Rich and Rich
Thanks John. It's nice to hear you are enjoying these. I see there are folks viewing but often wonder. It's fun to do.
Rich
Rich
When did I do that?