At first I thought this was a straight thru NH and planned on doing a rebuild. It looks very similar but closer inspection reveals that it is quite different.
Any ideas and are parts available?
What make is it?
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ModelTSpeedster
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What make is it?
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Re: What make is it?
Simmons Super Power Carburetor https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/3 ... 1372906796
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Re: What make is it?
Simons super power & other names.
Is this all you got?
Many NH parts fit. Bowl, float, needle/seat, mixture needle, throttle & choke levers & butterflys.
The Jet is shorter, but can be cut down.
The critical thing is the weighted butterfly behind the choke shaft with the pivot pin & retaining screw.
This stuff is the metering for the idle circuit. It wont work without these parts.
If the body is all you have, you need another one for parts.
Is this all you got?
Many NH parts fit. Bowl, float, needle/seat, mixture needle, throttle & choke levers & butterflys.
The Jet is shorter, but can be cut down.
The critical thing is the weighted butterfly behind the choke shaft with the pivot pin & retaining screw.
This stuff is the metering for the idle circuit. It wont work without these parts.
If the body is all you have, you need another one for parts.
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Re: What make is it?
Unusual identification plate! They were manufactured and sold under a few names, and with a couple variations (like electric heater coil or no electric heater coil). But I have never noticed one with a tag like that one.
The weighted flapper butterfly that appears to be missing is a critical piece. The pin that holds it in place, with a little creativity could be made by the average model T mechanic and common basic tools.
There has been discussion in the past of having someone make a bunch of those butterflies, as a lot of these carburetors are missing them (a lot simply got lost, and many of them broken). But I have never heard of anyone actually making some.
I can't do it due to current circumstances. However, I have had one of those carburetors for a very long time. I took it apart decades ago, and when I needed to move, the carburetor body and the small box of parts got separated. Through three different moves, and for years thereafter, I either had the carburetor body, or the box of parts where I could find it. But not both together. At some point about thirty years ago, I did figure out a way to make a flapper valve, but then another move lost the body and I had the flapper valve in its box of parts.
My last move (seventeen years ago) I finally got the parts and the body back together, but haven't had a car I wanted to use it on.
Part of the problem is that the weighted balance versus airflow is very important. A change in material (specific gravity) would require critical changes in the shape of the flapper valve. Exactly how critical those changes may be I am not sure. But some allowances would need to be made.
The weighted flapper butterfly that appears to be missing is a critical piece. The pin that holds it in place, with a little creativity could be made by the average model T mechanic and common basic tools.
There has been discussion in the past of having someone make a bunch of those butterflies, as a lot of these carburetors are missing them (a lot simply got lost, and many of them broken). But I have never heard of anyone actually making some.
I can't do it due to current circumstances. However, I have had one of those carburetors for a very long time. I took it apart decades ago, and when I needed to move, the carburetor body and the small box of parts got separated. Through three different moves, and for years thereafter, I either had the carburetor body, or the box of parts where I could find it. But not both together. At some point about thirty years ago, I did figure out a way to make a flapper valve, but then another move lost the body and I had the flapper valve in its box of parts.
My last move (seventeen years ago) I finally got the parts and the body back together, but haven't had a car I wanted to use it on.
Part of the problem is that the weighted balance versus airflow is very important. A change in material (specific gravity) would require critical changes in the shape of the flapper valve. Exactly how critical those changes may be I am not sure. But some allowances would need to be made.
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Re: What make is it?
Thank you for the info! The forum folks are always handy with the answers!
I dug through my stash of carbs and found a Wizard carb that is complete, albeit dirty. I will post some pictures tomorrow.
RB
I dug through my stash of carbs and found a Wizard carb that is complete, albeit dirty. I will post some pictures tomorrow.
RB
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Re: What make is it?
Looks like Wizard is a variation on this type of carb found my stack of ones waiting for rebuild. Appears to be complete.
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Re: What make is it?
Add ‘Western Auto’ to those other names. Same thing…Send it to Corey Walker for that weighted flap. He made one for me. Works great
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