1925 Touring Car Project

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:21 pm

Due to the project taking a weird turn - I'm starting a new thread. This was supposed to be a light and head upgrade and - well.... It's turned into "more". If you want to follow along I could use the subscribers and views. Here's today's video and it should give you a small ink-ling about the path we're on now. Tomorrow's video will be even more enlightening (already cued up). Enjoy the show!

https://youtu.be/Hxtl0dlLKXw

Post by **CudaMan** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:40 pm

I watched and left a "like". There's a lot going on in that engine compartment! Distributor, two horns, a top cylinder lubricator, what looks like a modern plastic master cylinder reservoir? Must have disk brakes on the rear. Quite the project!

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:05 pm

He estimates he's put 40-50k miles on that car since I did the engine last. Yes - rear discs. "kids and ice cream" was the motivation. Had to be able to stop! I think I'll do a walk-around while it's apart.

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:27 pm

Here's today's progress on the touring car:
https://youtu.be/ZV_GGqC-RVw
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Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:17 pm

Today's progress:
https://youtu.be/1xICPOr3VWo

Post by **1925 Touring** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:51 pm

Looks like a lot of work!
Thank you for the videos!

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:20 pm

Question for the old timers. Back when I built this engine the first two times I obviously put new rings in it. I can't remember if I got grant or hastings brand. I think I remember getting the one I didn't want due to a backorder. Pretty sure they both came from the same company and one of them was good and the other SUCKED (and I got them).

I'm trying to avoid the same mistake again, was it grant that was the crappy ones? If you're following the project videos you can see just how much oil went past these. It somehow pushed oil out between the gasket and head and gasket and block. You can see the smear path! Are they stamped (haven't gotten that far yet) with a name?

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:52 am

No one? Do I need to start a seperate thread for this?

Post by **CudaMan** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:18 am

I have not had to replace rings on my 1924 yet, but the questions/answers on Lang's website regarding rings for aluminum pistons implies that the Hastings rings are believed to be superior, hence their higher price.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3023AH.040.aspx

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:52 am

CudaMan wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:18 am
I have not had to replace rings on my 1924 yet, but the questions/answers on Lang's website regarding rings for aluminum pistons implies that the Hastings rings are believed to be superior, hence their higher price.

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3023AH.040.aspx

I will take your advice on this. Thank you.

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:09 pm

Happy Sunday - I've been putting out videos on this 1925 Model T touring car for a week or so now, it's still coming along. Currently still showing exactly how to tear one down for an engine rebuild and I GOT MY FIRST HATE MAIL (postings here)! This one is for "Steve King" - who had nothing good to say about what I do, ranted about me ranting! IF you have not seen the previous videos, please check them out, it's all coming out in order. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYWau9MXQNA

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:40 pm

TheSpeedsterProject wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:09 pm
Happy Sunday - I've been putting out videos on this 1925 Model T touring car for a week or so now, it's still coming along. Currently still showing exactly how to tear one down for an engine rebuild and I GOT MY FIRST HATE MAIL! This one is for "Steve King" - who had nothing good to say about what I do, ranted about me ranting! IF you have not seen the previous videos, please check them out, it's all coming out in order. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYWau9MXQNA

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:50 pm

Here's today's video on the 1925 Model T Touring car: https://youtu.be/KoXiWhWg55Y

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:16 pm

https://youtu.be/pm85FCaJfnY

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:52 pm

Today's video progress!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDYVflB ... TlqAnN2rRU

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:28 pm

So here's today's video https://youtu.be/jcnW1QDbeKw

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:08 pm

Keep watching - can't find the parts we need so get ready "SHIFT"! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK39TZCKMkY

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:43 pm

I just found out that ep 8 was never released.... Not sure how I managed that one but - here it is: https://youtu.be/VKuOTy3cHSw

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:05 pm

Episode 15 is now out. Skip back to Ep8 as well - I forgot to release that until I noticed yesterday!
https://youtu.be/lOBoudTRwA0

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:16 pm

https://youtu.be/IpAibLBmGUA

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:40 pm

Day 17 - it's just parts coming in so if you aren't into that....
https://youtu.be/5YQrnRgJ8NI

Rings show and tell and questions coming out tomorrow.

Post by **1925 Touring** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:22 pm

Thank you for all of the work in putting all these videos for all of is to see!

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:51 pm

https://youtu.be/_Am-xLWep2s

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:42 pm

Are you keeping up with the series? https://youtu.be/k81GToH75hE

Post by **Jerry VanOoteghem** » Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:53 pm

You state early in your video that the rings you're removing had "5 minutes total run time", then later state that they got progressively worse over 15 years. Which is it?

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Nov 30, 2023 12:01 pm

We've been talking about two seperate engines. I can clarify that in an upcoming video if I didn't explain it clearly. "we opted not to wait 11 months for the original block to be bored". I thought I said it, maybe that part got edited out.....?

Please throw your comments under the video on youtube so I know what you're referencing.

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:29 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlkKbzcG9ug

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm

Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g

Post by **Racer_22** » Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:26 pm

The bands in question were from the late Sheldon Lowenthal in Cleveland Ohio who was the custom friction company. He helped our hobby tremendously with his engineering skills. He was a pioneer in Kevlar cone clutches and later model t bands. You sent your bands to him and he riveted new linings on. They were quick to engage and chattered when stopping. His first generation compressed Kevlar was bonded to woven nylon backing material. It melted at about 400 degrees and caused catastrophic engine failures. Later he used cotton backing like a Scout belt that he bonded the Kevlar to. Later he obtained material from England that was woven Kevlar we use today. Now you know the story. One more comment, why would you keep the bands out of an individuals car and save for your stash.

Post by **Jerry VanOoteghem** » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 am

TheSpeedsterProject wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm
Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g

Your latest video, on how to ruin Kevlar linings, has the comments turned off.

Whatever.....

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:12 pm

If you are talking about this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g

I have no idea what you're talking about - others are leaving comments there no problem.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 am

TheSpeedsterProject wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm
Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g
Your latest video, on how to ruin Kevlar linings, has the comments turned off.

Whatever.....

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:17 pm

Racer_22 wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:26 pm
The bands in question were from the late Sheldon Lowenthal in Cleveland Ohio who was the custom friction company. He helped our hobby tremendously with his engineering skills. He was a pioneer in Kevlar cone clutches and later model t bands. You sent your bands to him and he riveted new linings on. They were quick to engage and chattered when stopping. His first generation compressed Kevlar was bonded to woven nylon backing material. It melted at about 400 degrees and caused catastrophic engine failures. Later he used cotton backing like a Scout belt that he bonded the Kevlar to. Later he obtained material from England that was woven Kevlar we use today. Now you know the story. One more comment, why would you keep the bands out of an individuals car and save for your stash.

Very interesting information!
Customer told me specifically to keep the parts we replace, those were too good to toss but worn in a couple spots amd he didn't like that. He wants "everything new" including the bands so I grabbed another set of steels from the pile. No funny business, he's "not mechanical" and doesn't want the leftovers. He doesn't even change his own oil, brings the car back here every spring for it. If he asks for them, they are still here to take.

Post by **Jerry VanOoteghem** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:59 pm

TheSpeedsterProject wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:12 pm
If you are talking about this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g

I have no idea what you're talking about - others are leaving comments there no problem.

Jerry VanOoteghem wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:21 am

TheSpeedsterProject wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:07 pm
Do me a favor and leave a comment or a like on this if you think it was helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g
Your latest video, on how to ruin Kevlar linings, has the comments turned off.

Whatever.....

This one... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnRzvdaKN6g&t=816s

Apparently, comments are back on again, including mine. Or, maybe you turned comments off on FB?

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 6:12 pm

I dont turn the comments off on youtube.com.

Next video: https://youtu.be/GJzMwMJbeFM

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pacrr9JwcE

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:10 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgDzWNect4E

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:09 pm

Latest video is out: https://youtu.be/Hz3-nhvfm9c

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:18 pm

https://youtu.be/RXITlvqrHbk

Post by **Racer_22** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:27 pm

Perhaps you should check to see how much your piston moves the head with the head studs loose.Measure that distance. Measure how thick your head gasket is.You have not established your pan rail to top of the block measurement. You will probably find the head clears just fine. Maybe youll find your Rod babbitter moved the centerline down several thousands to allow the pistons to pop up higher or possibly you have a bad set of pistons from your supplier. The piston heights vary between manufactures. You will learn this as you become more experienced.

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:01 am

First - It's Christmas day and I'm looking for someone on my naughty list (joke) - Next video: https://youtu.be/RNQ2nbOSmBM

Second - Hello Kevin. The Z head hit on all four with the OG setup. Your head hit on two. Loose bolts or tight. Can't explain it beyond "someone decked it many many times". IDK.

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Jan 08, 2024 4:54 pm

Going to have an opening here soon if anyone needs work done.

Here's two more video links for the series:

https://youtu.be/CIA_yjSuq7A

https://youtu.be/ZdMQ8HLhZZQ

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:16 pm

They ARE deleting subscribers! Evil.... Here's the next video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJpNxpv5uxE

Post by **Rajo23** » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:26 pm

Or, perhaps, people are unsubcribing.

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:23 pm

Or perhaps youtube is deleting them, like this gentleman and at least one other that has commented on there.

Here's the latest video... https://youtu.be/OyVhWKNSxOU

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:42 pm

Next video - this one is all about the starter, how to install. Hopefully it helps someone! https://youtu.be/Z_tGgA262yE

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:47 pm

Surprise!
https://youtu.be/efjcjzGZjvs

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:32 am

Latest video, https://youtu.be/bHPDX1wsjRw

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:16 pm

Monday double feature: https://youtu.be/sF09S-HX4DE

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:31 pm

Project took a turn - bosch front plate time!
https://youtu.be/2UEXmIZJ0wc

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:12 am

ok - so this one isnt what the customer wanted. After a month of searching and waiting we found a front plate so this one is "out of here"!
https://youtu.be/LWIpd-ikc_8

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:38 am

So youtube has been deleting my subscribers and views - now this - no thumbnail.
Anyway - Bosch Front Plate information here:
https://youtu.be/BH5Dni6mKQc

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:01 pm

Ran into a snag on the bosch front plate install!

https://youtu.be/WhMediNH1Rs

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:07 pm

Today's video - the end will shock you.

https://youtu.be/GLXWM-dbeuw

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:09 pm

Latest episode is out! https://youtu.be/cte_sHuJd34

Post by **Gen3AntiqueAuto** » Sat May 04, 2024 2:23 pm

https://youtu.be/i_h2gRKcu6k