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 DHort
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								by DHort » Mon Jun 03, 2024 12:40 am
			
			
			
			
			We arrived in Miamisburg Ohio and climbed a hill about the height of Pikes Peak.  At the top I lost my low gear.  Two ladies helped push me in to the parking lot.  I am now at home, and checked out the tranny.  It appears the bands were installed backwards and the detachable ear on the low band had popped off.  No wonder I lost low.  I am trying to determine if I can replace the band without removing the hogshead.  My guess is no.
Good thing I was traveling behind the 10,000,000 Ford at Homecoming because I will not be able to do so when they pass thru Illinois. 

 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								by speedytinc » Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:23 am
			
			
			
			
			Not enough info.
Depends on the band material & year of Hogs head.
Cotton or scandia likely yes. If possible the easy way is to remove reverse first then low. If brake is backwards remove next.
Re-install brake, low then reverse bands.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								by DHort » Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:57 am
			
			
			
			
			John
Kevlar
Hogshead has port for starter, but no starter in it, and not a 26-27.  Motor is 24 , but hogshead is?
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								by speedytinc » Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:35 am
			
			
			
			
			Kevlar....... Pull the H/H.
The bands need to be perfectly round. 
Anything less risks excessive friction-heat-broken drum.
Whall you have the H/H off consider putting in a new low cam set.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								by J1MGOLDEN » Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:46 pm
			
			
			
			
			Now I wonder how many people have ever wondered why the detachable ear has to be on the pedal side or driver's side.
You answered that queston!
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								by Kerry » Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:58 am
			
			
			
			
			Check the band for a fault, the fact that the removable ear was reversed is not an issue, RHD T's have the ear on the pedal side as well.
			
			
									
									
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
	
				
		
		
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								by DHort » Thu Oct 02, 2025 11:56 pm
			
			
			
			
			Sorry, I never followed up with this post.
All 3 bands were installed backwards with the detachable ear on the passenger side.
Turns out the band that popped loose was a generic band and the other 2 were Ford.
We replaced the generic band with a Ford band after removing the HH and now all bands are correctly installed.
Speedster is running well.
I think I gave at least 20 people rides at OCF, so the bands have proven to work well