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Title Disclosure
Here we go again with a car advertised here, only to learn after 15 minutes of discussion with the seller, that owner does not possess a negotiable title. I propose that this Forum decisively state that this declaration appear in the first sentence of all auto sale ads posted here that do not. Fellow from St. Louis selling your car here....you know better.
Seems this Forum has tossed respected others for alleged actions much more petty than this....we're all about credibility or we're not, which is it?
Scott Rosenthal
Seems this Forum has tossed respected others for alleged actions much more petty than this....we're all about credibility or we're not, which is it?
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If I sell a car on here there is no way for me to give you a title. My state does not issue a title for anything before 1975. I have never have had a problem for people getting a title in they state on cars I have sold.
What’s the big deal? Dan
What’s the big deal? Dan
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I've bought 2 speedster without titles. One from California and one from Tennessee. I live in Minnesota. You do some paperwork and you get them titled. Not a big deal. Pretty much every hotrod that is built would get a title the same way. No disrespect to the original poster.
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TN is the same with boats also , no titles only a bill of sale. Title is easy to get here, some paperwork and meet with THP
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I suggest that any prospective buyer ask the seller about paperwork, and then check with buyer's local jurisdiction as to what the requirements are to register the car. It might be a good idea to check with your insuror, also.
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In Arizona getting a vehicle titled & in your name can be a PITA My speedster was purchased as a pile of parts with a bill of sale! It took weeks
and over a $1,000 to get a title in my name & 1 year registration. The next 5 years registration was also close to that. Some of the fun things
that came with this endeavor was proving to DMV that there was no serial # on the frame of a 1922 Ford. getting a title with the serial # of the
engine so when I broke low drum & installed another engine in the car I broke the law by altering the serial # on the vehicle. The title states I'm
the original owner & that it was first titled in May of 1922. They made me go back to the seller & have them write me a new bill of sale that was
4 paragraphs long & have it notarized. Get a $8,000 bond. ( bond is included in the first cost ) I know people that have spent hundreds of dollars
to get a title to register or sell just a cab or body ( that's just for the piece of paper ) Some states are better than others & some people have
better luck @ it than I do. I personally will not pursue a purchase no matter how good it is with out a title unless its just for the parts.
JMHO
Craig.
and over a $1,000 to get a title in my name & 1 year registration. The next 5 years registration was also close to that. Some of the fun things
that came with this endeavor was proving to DMV that there was no serial # on the frame of a 1922 Ford. getting a title with the serial # of the
engine so when I broke low drum & installed another engine in the car I broke the law by altering the serial # on the vehicle. The title states I'm
the original owner & that it was first titled in May of 1922. They made me go back to the seller & have them write me a new bill of sale that was
4 paragraphs long & have it notarized. Get a $8,000 bond. ( bond is included in the first cost ) I know people that have spent hundreds of dollars
to get a title to register or sell just a cab or body ( that's just for the piece of paper ) Some states are better than others & some people have
better luck @ it than I do. I personally will not pursue a purchase no matter how good it is with out a title unless its just for the parts.
JMHO
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Craig's story demonstrates that different legislatures have different ways of complicating your life. Fortunately ours hasn't made buying an old car a Byzantine nightmare. I bought a 1923 touring in Nebraska with only a bill of sale, and a TT in Arkansas with a bill of sale handwritten by the owner. Getting a title for both was easy here, and not very expensive.
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One of my cars had a bad starter ring on the flywheel and I saw an engine at the swap meet with transmission all rebuilt by one of our local members who was a retired machinist, so he knew how to do the job. It was in an aftermarket block which had never had an engine number stamped on it. I didn't change the title, but I kept the old engine which ran when I removed it except for the starter ring. If I ever sell it or it is sold by my heirs, the spare engine goes with it. I did that because I didn't want two engines with the same engine number.
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I understand Mr. Rosenthals' frustration. Why would you put down $30K on a non-titled car only to find out later that when the seller bought it 15 years ago from BillyBob he never got around to doing a title transfer. Guess what? The car still belongs to BillyBob and in my State you have to go back and start the notarized affidavit process with BillyBob or his estate to try to get a title. Moreover, my collector car insurance company wont insure a non-titled or non-registered car. You guys who have a non-title State on your older cars normally you are still required to provide a transferable registration for the buyer to obtain a title in his State. Its all fine and good not to worry about the legal ownership on a doodlebug you are banging around in on the back 40, but you and your heirs will be way ahead if you have clear ownership of your collector cars.
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Not saying a bill of sale is a problem buying or selling, unless its not disclosed front and center in the ad. Otherwise smells like a bait and switch.
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Question was whether MTFCA Classifieds should mandate no ambiguous title statement policy the way Ebay does. To be clear, a non notarized title or notarized other than seller's name requires Bill of Sale. Real simple policy that protects not only the parties but also MTFCA. No intrusion or cost on any honest party...sounds like a no-brainer.
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I can't imagine the problems I'd have trying to title a car with no paperwork here in N.J. Moron central. Not all DMV offices handle classic car plates either. I found that out the hard way. Because of prior incidents I'd never consider a car without paperwork.
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Steve,Steve Jelf wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:13 amI bought a 1923 touring in Nebraska with only a bill of sale, and a TT in Arkansas with a bill of sale handwritten by the owner. Getting a title for both was easy here, and not very expensive.
Did you have to have the Kansas Highway patrol do a "VIN" inspection on those cars, showing the bill of sale to the trooper? I had to have my out of state T's get a VIN inspection when I bought them in order to get a KS title and registration, but those cars had an out of state title. The Kansas instructions are not clear if they also need to be inspected if buying from out of state on a bill of sale.
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The first question to buying an old, classic or modern car is DOES IT HAVE A TITLE. Worry about the price later. Find out if it has a title or not and then negotiate the price if you really want the car. No title is an automatic $500.00 off negotiated price and if it’s still a no go then walk away. But again different states have different title requirements. Find out first then decide.
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Mr.Rosenthal,
It was made known to you the car did not have a title.
The next day you expressed that you were no longer interested.
What is the big deal here?
It was made known to you the car did not have a title.
The next day you expressed that you were no longer interested.
What is the big deal here?
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Even with a title you can have issues! My neighbor purchased a 56 Thunder Bird from a local shop. We took care of the mechanical issues it had
then he decided to sell it after finding a nicer 57. The 56 had a out of state title so he went to get it transferred to Az. DMV told him the title
had been altered & could not be transferred. My neighbor went back to the seller. Stated to the seller that he had told him it had a good title.
The seller said that was the way he got it and there was nothing he could do about it. The neighbor produced a text with a pic of the title & the statement that it was a clear title! He demanded his money back even though he would waste all the time & money that had been put into it.
The seller was not willing to do that but said to bring the title to him & he would straighten things out. Weeks went by & no title, then the seller
sent a truck to pick up the 56TB still saying he would get the title but had to have the car for inspection. More weeks go by & the 56TB shows up
on a truck with a clear title but the seller wanted paid for his time & expense! That of coarse was a non starter, stern words were exchanged &
lawyers business cards exchanged. In all 2 months had past to get legal ownership. Here in Arizona we have third party MVD's that can do title
transfers during regular business hours. All of my purchases are finalized there so I walk away with a new title in my name. If that's not doable
then no sale will take place.
Craig.
then he decided to sell it after finding a nicer 57. The 56 had a out of state title so he went to get it transferred to Az. DMV told him the title
had been altered & could not be transferred. My neighbor went back to the seller. Stated to the seller that he had told him it had a good title.
The seller said that was the way he got it and there was nothing he could do about it. The neighbor produced a text with a pic of the title & the statement that it was a clear title! He demanded his money back even though he would waste all the time & money that had been put into it.
The seller was not willing to do that but said to bring the title to him & he would straighten things out. Weeks went by & no title, then the seller
sent a truck to pick up the 56TB still saying he would get the title but had to have the car for inspection. More weeks go by & the 56TB shows up
on a truck with a clear title but the seller wanted paid for his time & expense! That of coarse was a non starter, stern words were exchanged &
lawyers business cards exchanged. In all 2 months had past to get legal ownership. Here in Arizona we have third party MVD's that can do title
transfers during regular business hours. All of my purchases are finalized there so I walk away with a new title in my name. If that's not doable
then no sale will take place.
Craig.
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Did you have to have the Kansas Highway patrol do a "VIN" inspection on those cars, showing the bill of sale to the trooper?
I needed an inspection, but not by KHP. Winfield PD. I think it cost me $10. It's been a long time since I bought a vehicle, so I don't know what the rules are now. I would sure find out before plunking down my dough. That's part of caveat emptor.
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I also had a problem many years ago when I sold a 36 Ford V8. I signed over the title to the new owner and gave it to him. A few weeks later I got a summons to appear in court for a parking ticket. He had not transferred it with DMV. After that when I sell a car, we both go down to DMV to get it transferred or mail it to them in Sacramento that day.
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When I brought the T as well as my other cars and the Ts trailer to Florida, I was told by the county tax collector's office to call the police and they would send an officer to check the VINs. The officer checked all of the VINs and the Massachusetts titles that I had, and he was done and gone in less then 10 minutes and there was no charge for either his time or the paperwork.
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Buyer beware!
Having a "Title" isn't the simple answer to take ownership of a vehicle.
A Title is only a document to prove who owns said vehicle. Name & address needs to match the owner/seller, but the VIN is the identifier for the car.
If the seller is not the named owner - then the Title has many issues to be resolved to make a safe transaction for the buyer
Examples:
While it isn't always necessary to have the seller signature(s) notarized. Without notarization if the car turns out to be stolen it can be confiscated and the buyer looses the payment.
Does the seller's name & address match that of the title. If its an Estate sale, while the Executor of the estate can sell the car there needs to be lots of additional documentation to make a legal sale.
Do the ID numbers match. Whatever is on the Title, there needs to be matching number on the car. Back in the day engine numbers were used, then serial numbers & eventually VIN. So the Title's age may reflect what the DMV of that era used & confuse the DMV Clerk.
If the Title doesn't have "VIN _______".
In any case you should always have a notarized Bill Of Sale to protect yourself from possible fraud.
Having a "Title" isn't the simple answer to take ownership of a vehicle.
A Title is only a document to prove who owns said vehicle. Name & address needs to match the owner/seller, but the VIN is the identifier for the car.
If the seller is not the named owner - then the Title has many issues to be resolved to make a safe transaction for the buyer
Examples:
While it isn't always necessary to have the seller signature(s) notarized. Without notarization if the car turns out to be stolen it can be confiscated and the buyer looses the payment.
Does the seller's name & address match that of the title. If its an Estate sale, while the Executor of the estate can sell the car there needs to be lots of additional documentation to make a legal sale.
Do the ID numbers match. Whatever is on the Title, there needs to be matching number on the car. Back in the day engine numbers were used, then serial numbers & eventually VIN. So the Title's age may reflect what the DMV of that era used & confuse the DMV Clerk.
If the Title doesn't have "VIN _______".

In any case you should always have a notarized Bill Of Sale to protect yourself from possible fraud.
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Maryland is a complicated state for having no title. My 26 came from Model T haven in Kansas. they had cars obtained with a bill of sale and then would use that to obtain a Kansas title from the courthouse. the 26 having a production number on the frame for December of 25 and a engine production number for 1922. this made the title a 1922 Tudor that was obviously a 26. naturally I wasn't accepting of this, so after lots of research and historical documentation of model year changes and such, I was able to have a DOT officer come to my house and certify my findings and get my production number on the frame to match the title work. after that i took the signed verification papers and the Kansas title in and they made me a MD title. all in all it was a good 6-7 month ordeal. but it worked out. Titles are important and i would think they would work in any state at the DMV. but a bill of sale not so much. I guess at least the seller told you there was no title during your conversation and not after you had already paid. but I agree it should be in the listing. Can any state with a bill of sale get it converted to Title form at the courthouse so selling it can be more universal?
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My father told me years ago when selling a car MAKE SURE the title is signed over to the buyer and not left open for the next buyer. Car lots do this to avoid paying the fee to getting it changed over. Found out years ago when I sold an old Chevy and found out months later that the next owner bought the car and was in another city and a ticket and the fine came to me! Then I remembered what he said!
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Re: Title Disclosure
Went and checked and after counting 4 Ads currently posted on this forum with no mention of title status, I stopped.
This is nothing new. How is it any different than an advertised post found elsewhere with just one picture and a phone number to call? Just like not so long ago.
If you are interested in a car, you call and inquire about it.
What’s the big deal here.
This is nothing new. How is it any different than an advertised post found elsewhere with just one picture and a phone number to call? Just like not so long ago.
If you are interested in a car, you call and inquire about it.
What’s the big deal here.
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As someone who's profession is titles; I would never buy a car without a title from the seller. Was it solen? Does it have a lien? What else? Who knows.
Different states have different requirements in terms of how you can sell a car. That part is true. Still, why go through the trouble when all 50 states can furnish a motor vehicle title?.
Secondly; once you purchase a car, wouldn't you get the car titled in your title holding state? Why purchase a car and not go to your SOS/DMV and transfer the title or go through the proper channels to furnish one? Whether it's a $30k purchase or a $5k purchase, no title should equal no deal until a clear title is provided.
Here in Michigan, we provide same day title services, called an 'Instant Title'. When I bought my '21 Sedan I was able to furnish a title same day without question. Point being, these are administrative tasks the seller should always incur prior to the sale of the car. Considering the level of fraud that exists in the world today; all buyers and sellers should do their due diligence.

Secondly; once you purchase a car, wouldn't you get the car titled in your title holding state? Why purchase a car and not go to your SOS/DMV and transfer the title or go through the proper channels to furnish one? Whether it's a $30k purchase or a $5k purchase, no title should equal no deal until a clear title is provided.
Here in Michigan, we provide same day title services, called an 'Instant Title'. When I bought my '21 Sedan I was able to furnish a title same day without question. Point being, these are administrative tasks the seller should always incur prior to the sale of the car. Considering the level of fraud that exists in the world today; all buyers and sellers should do their due diligence.
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Correction Steven, I made no such offer to you. You were told this sale would absolutely not exceed a specified amount, and that any offer would only follow my review of your project in person. That you did in fact agree to these terms was basis for that continued discussion.
I apologize for going off on you when you phoned a half hour ago...your call was not the immediate crisis. I should have heard you out, and that's poor form on me.
This hobby is banking on bringing in new blood to survive. For my interest here, I'm not willing to stand by when predatory BS looks to threaten those not savvy to this game. I sincerely hope this does not describe you.
Pleae also note the I did not call you out here....you did.
I apologize for going off on you when you phoned a half hour ago...your call was not the immediate crisis. I should have heard you out, and that's poor form on me.
This hobby is banking on bringing in new blood to survive. For my interest here, I'm not willing to stand by when predatory BS looks to threaten those not savvy to this game. I sincerely hope this does not describe you.
Pleae also note the I did not call you out here....you did.
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Mr. Rosenthal,
Simply put.
I told you the car had no title on the phone. You acknowledged that. You were still interested.
You call and retract your offer/premise the next day.
I inform you that I am no longer selling the car anyway.
I wake up to the suggestion of being banned for not stating title status on my Ad.
You mentioned “Guy selling the car from St.Louis” I had the only ad from such a place on this forum in the past weeks.
What am I missing here.
Simply put.
I told you the car had no title on the phone. You acknowledged that. You were still interested.
You call and retract your offer/premise the next day.
I inform you that I am no longer selling the car anyway.
I wake up to the suggestion of being banned for not stating title status on my Ad.
You mentioned “Guy selling the car from St.Louis” I had the only ad from such a place on this forum in the past weeks.
What am I missing here.
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Boy, how I wish Ohio had the same rules as Michigan when it comes to titles! I live in Ohio, with “T” friends in Michigan. My dad gave me a “T” that he got from one of his friends that inherited it from his family. Unfortunately it hasn’t seen the road for 90 years. It was “in the barn” for years and somewhere along the way was disassembled. Even though I explaine Ohio didn’t do titles until 1938, the BMV wants me to restore the car, take it to the state trooper inspection facility and if it passes they will give me an assembled vehicle title listing the vehicle as a 2024 Ford Model T (assuming I did it this year. Of course it wouldn’t pass because of the requirements needed in 2024…. Turn signals etc. So, the thing just sits. I’m not going to put all that $ in it just be told it doesn’t meet standards. I’ve been to several BMV’s and they’re all giving me the same story. So, in Scott’s defense, I wouldn’t want anything without a title either (I already have one!)
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It seems very simple to me: Know the rules in YOUR state before you buy.
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BTTT. Submitted for consideration by MTFCA please. This proposed seller stipulation protects buyers while offending no honest person, and notably costs nobody a dime.
Thx
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Thx
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I’m all for it.
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A disclaimer isn't necessary.
All one has to do when replying to an ad is ask a simple question up-front, "Does this vehicle have a title in the seller's name?"
All one has to do when replying to an ad is ask a simple question up-front, "Does this vehicle have a title in the seller's name?"
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Re: Title Disclosure
Bingo!Erik Johnson wrote: ↑Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:33 pmA disclaimer isn't necessary.
All one has to do when replying to an ad is ask a simple question up-front, "Does this vehicle have a title in the seller's name?"
As a buyer, it's your responsibility to ask about what's important to you.
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Re: Title Disclosure
Here in Crap-A-Fornia, that’s California for those not in the know,
buying a car with a good California title isn’t all you need to know about the car. For example if the California title was issued six years ago to the person that you are buying the car from , but that person only registered the car for one year and then not officially California “ Non-Opped “ , then California will require that you pay back registration fees plus fines for the back five years. This has caused many a deal to blow up because the fees due were more than the car was worth. The only solution is to wait until the car drops off the California computerized system, in this case another year I think, or to sell the car out of state.
buying a car with a good California title isn’t all you need to know about the car. For example if the California title was issued six years ago to the person that you are buying the car from , but that person only registered the car for one year and then not officially California “ Non-Opped “ , then California will require that you pay back registration fees plus fines for the back five years. This has caused many a deal to blow up because the fees due were more than the car was worth. The only solution is to wait until the car drops off the California computerized system, in this case another year I think, or to sell the car out of state.
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Re: Title Disclosure
With one political party pushing so much for "state's rights", wouldn't it be grand if every one of the fifty states that has been a "title state' for most of their existence, have the same title registration rules to simplify registration? Of course, those states that were NON-title states for up into the 1960's or 70's, would have to have a separate law to apply specifically to them, but even putting all fifty states under two types of registration laws, would simplify buying and selling cars and trucks. It'll never happen, but I can dream about it, tonight !
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Re: Title Disclosure
I am reading all of these reports of frustration, heartache, delay, and expense with raised eyebrows.
I feel so sorry for those of you who have had to endure these travails.
The summation does seem to be: know with certainty what necessary documentation YOUR state requires, and then can the seller of a car you are interested in actually PROVIDE that documentation.
I feel all the more blessed to live in New Hampshire which does not require titles for older vehicles; a Bill of Sale is all which is needed. We also have wonderful back roads for leisurely, scenic touring.

The summation does seem to be: know with certainty what necessary documentation YOUR state requires, and then can the seller of a car you are interested in actually PROVIDE that documentation.
I feel all the more blessed to live in New Hampshire which does not require titles for older vehicles; a Bill of Sale is all which is needed. We also have wonderful back roads for leisurely, scenic touring.
Bill Harper
Keene, New Hampshire
Keene, New Hampshire
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Re: Title Disclosure
For a unique website that is dedicated to the Model T Ford and posting a Model T Ford for sale in the classifieds the information should include whether the car has a title, bill of sale or not. If the buyer is really interested he would contact the seller and go from there. Doing that would clear up any issues. Pretty simple. And do your homework about the location and the information that the seller has.
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Re: Title Disclosure
In California, many antique and historical vehicles are exempt from non operation fees / penalties. Of course that won't stop the idiots at the DMV from trying to sc*w you.
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Re: Title Disclosure
When I moved to NH a while back, I wanted to register a '79 Renegade I had at the time. They asked for my Pennsylvania title. When I handed it to them, they shredded it right in front of me and didn't give me a NH title due to the car's age. I protested and asked what was I supposed to do if I move back to PA. The lady said I'd be fine. You know what? She was right. I was fine. PA saw it was registered in NH and got me a new title quickly with no questions asked.
The T was just as easy when I brought it home from Michigan.
The T was just as easy when I brought it home from Michigan.
Where is the OBD2 port on this thing?
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Re: Title Disclosure
I love y'alls DMV stories.
A. I bought a '50 Ford in Missouri on a notarized Bill of Sale, brought it back to Louisiana, and had a Title in 10 days.
B. Before that, I bought a '53 Chevy in Louisiana (same state), with the original Title and original Bill of Sale, but there was a name missing in the list of owners:
1) Trip to OMV
2) Trips to a title notary
3) Tow car to the State Police Office and back home
4) Trips to Court, Justice of the Peace
5) Back to OMV
It took six months and would have been easier if the Title had disappeared, seriously.
I like knowing if a car has a title but not enough to make it a rule in this forum.
However, I am in favor of posting suggested guidelines, maybe called Buyer/Seller Etiquette.
1) Does vehicle have a title?
2) Does engine run?
3) Is vehicle drivable?
4) Is vehicle complete?
5) Is vehicle assembled?
Possible answers can be "unknown", 90%, needs work, unavailable, last driven 5 years ago...
Once suggested guidelines are in place, no one has to follow them, but it does make the poster suspect by avoiding them.
The suggested guidelines will also help the buyer remember what to ask.
What say ye?
A. I bought a '50 Ford in Missouri on a notarized Bill of Sale, brought it back to Louisiana, and had a Title in 10 days.
B. Before that, I bought a '53 Chevy in Louisiana (same state), with the original Title and original Bill of Sale, but there was a name missing in the list of owners:
1) Trip to OMV
2) Trips to a title notary
3) Tow car to the State Police Office and back home
4) Trips to Court, Justice of the Peace
5) Back to OMV
It took six months and would have been easier if the Title had disappeared, seriously.
I like knowing if a car has a title but not enough to make it a rule in this forum.
However, I am in favor of posting suggested guidelines, maybe called Buyer/Seller Etiquette.
1) Does vehicle have a title?
2) Does engine run?
3) Is vehicle drivable?
4) Is vehicle complete?
5) Is vehicle assembled?
Possible answers can be "unknown", 90%, needs work, unavailable, last driven 5 years ago...
Once suggested guidelines are in place, no one has to follow them, but it does make the poster suspect by avoiding them.
The suggested guidelines will also help the buyer remember what to ask.
What say ye?
Vern (Vieux Carre)
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Re: Title Disclosure
I have not purchased an untitled car since Massachusetts started requiring them in 1972. Pre-1980 automobiles do not require titles if they were purchased before a specific date in 1990. Non of my cars fit that category so they're all titled. Transferring the MA titles to Florida was a piece of cake.
What was not a piece of cake was getting a Florida year of manufacture approved. Easy in MA, but a real PITA in Florida. I'm amazed to hear myself saying that.
What was not a piece of cake was getting a Florida year of manufacture approved. Easy in MA, but a real PITA in Florida. I'm amazed to hear myself saying that.