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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
People were smaller, and buildings were taller.
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
Many times I’ve felt like the fellow in photo 4… Open the hood and take out a ball peen hammer.. 

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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
That first picture looks like the mountains between Las Vegas and Barstow. That area would be in California looking southwest. I could be wrong.
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
The first photo is in a mountainous area for sure. Looks like there is a fence or the remains on one side of the road and maybe?? a phone or telegraph pole. Intriguing picture from 100 years ago before any development. The Touring looks like a 14?
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
Also in the 4th, are those shock absorbers on the front springs, I like the V-radiatorGeorge House wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 4:18 pmMany times I’ve felt like the fellow in photo 4… Open the hood and take out a ball peen hammer..![]()
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
The fourth photo, a 1911 torpedo roadster (the actual first model T Ford production model to have truly rounded fenders dipping back down around over the wheel). The car is somewhat accessorized with a Livingston (actual or style?) radiator, and note the lengthened hand crank extended just long enough to clear the front of the radiator. The license plate claims 1915, so the car is about four years old, and still looking pretty sharp!
That type shock absorber with the spring towers replacing the factory spring perches were fairly popular during the 1910s. Although an interesting artifact, that type shock absorber should never be installed or left on any model T that is to be driven these days. While they did help with softening the rough roads of their day at the speeds of their day? They cannot be trusted at the speeds we drive our model Ts today. The tall arc and hanging rod from a spring design creates an unstable zone in the structure that can result in a serious instability in the front suspension that at higher speeds (even only about 30mph) can break into an oscillation and result in loss of control or even a collapse of the front axle causing potentially serious accidents.
Several serious accidents have happened, and even a few deaths occurred that most likely would not have happened if not for the use of that style shock absorber on a model T. While there were other contributing factors, use of those style shock absorbers were a significant factor.
They are a piece of the model T's history, and are interesting to look at. But they should be looked at hanging on your garage wall.
That type shock absorber with the spring towers replacing the factory spring perches were fairly popular during the 1910s. Although an interesting artifact, that type shock absorber should never be installed or left on any model T that is to be driven these days. While they did help with softening the rough roads of their day at the speeds of their day? They cannot be trusted at the speeds we drive our model Ts today. The tall arc and hanging rod from a spring design creates an unstable zone in the structure that can result in a serious instability in the front suspension that at higher speeds (even only about 30mph) can break into an oscillation and result in loss of control or even a collapse of the front axle causing potentially serious accidents.
Several serious accidents have happened, and even a few deaths occurred that most likely would not have happened if not for the use of that style shock absorber on a model T. While there were other contributing factors, use of those style shock absorbers were a significant factor.
They are a piece of the model T's history, and are interesting to look at. But they should be looked at hanging on your garage wall.
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
I totally agree with the points you make about the shock absorbers. In fact, the ones shown in photo #4 are the same make as those involved in Ken Meeks' accident and death.Wayne Sheldon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:30 pmThe fourth photo, a 1911 torpedo roadster (the actual first model T Ford production model to have truly rounded fenders dipping back down around over the wheel). The car is somewhat accessorized with a Livingston (actual or style?) radiator, and note the lengthened hand crank extended just long enough to clear the front of the radiator. The license plate claims 1915, so the car is about four years old, and still looking pretty sharp!
That type shock absorber with the spring towers replacing the factory spring perches were fairly popular during the 1910s. Although an interesting artifact, that type shock absorber should never be installed or left on any model T that is to be driven these days. While they did help with softening the rough roads of their day at the speeds of their day? They cannot be trusted at the speeds we drive our model Ts today. The tall arc and hanging rod from a spring design creates an unstable zone in the structure that can result in a serious instability in the front suspension that at higher speeds (even only about 30mph) can break into an oscillation and result in loss of control or even a collapse of the front axle causing potentially serious accidents.
Several serious accidents have happened, and even a few deaths occurred that most likely would not have happened if not for the use of that style shock absorber on a model T. While there were other contributing factors, use of those style shock absorbers were a significant factor.
They are a piece of the model T's history, and are interesting to look at. But they should be looked at hanging on your garage wall.
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
Number 7 looks like a 15. It must have been getting old because the fenders and running boards have been braced to the body and the brakes must not be working very well because they knocked down the fence!
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
That shot of Peck, Michigan (which is in my county) shows the Detroit, Bay City & Western Railway station. The line from Peck to Port Huron was completed in 1916. Long gone now.
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
Adding to Wayne's keen observations about the torpedo...
...it also has one piece spindles.
...it also has one piece spindles.
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Re: 1,000 mi. from nowhere.
That is what I like! Nice catch on the spindles. Makes it an early 1911.
I am really hoping for someone familiar with the radiators to comment on whether it might be a Livingston or not? I cannot see the oval name badge on the radiator that a lot of Livingston radiators did have? However I don't think all of them had that?
I am really hoping for someone familiar with the radiators to comment on whether it might be a Livingston or not? I cannot see the oval name badge on the radiator that a lot of Livingston radiators did have? However I don't think all of them had that?