Operating Temperature - what is the range?
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules
-
TXGOAT2
Topic author - Posts: 8251
- Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:08 pm
- First Name: Pat
- Last Name: McNallen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926-7 roadster
- Location: Graham, Texas
- Board Member Since: 2021
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
They usually run from about 180 to 200 F. Boiling over is too hot. With modern oil and modern coolant, 200 to 215 F is no problem for the engine, as long as the system is full of coolant and working properly. Any atmospheric cooling system will boil at lower temperatures at higher altitudes.
-
Norman Kling
- Posts: 4693
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:39 pm
- First Name: Norman
- Last Name: Kling
- Location: Alpine California
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
As long as it does not start steaming while driving is OK. On a hot day driving uphill, it should not steam, but if you stop and park, it might gurgle a bit. Always check coolant level before driving. It can get low from expansion, or from a leak. Normal level when cool would be about half way up the top tank. If you fill till it is to the top of the neck, it will expand and run out.
Norm
Norm
-
JohnM
- Posts: 740
- Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:22 pm
- First Name: John
- Last Name: Michaelree
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Touring 1927 Tudor
- Location: st louis
- Board Member Since: 2010
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
I run 50/50 antifreeze and have a Bergs radiator. The previous owner had installed a temp sensor on the side of the head. It runs 160 to 180 degrees. On hot days waiting for the light to turn green, it can creep up over190. Once I'm moving it's fine. As Pat and Norman said, if it's not boiling while cruising on level roads, you're fine.
-
zukote1991
- Posts: 1
- Joined: Wed May 14, 2025 4:57 am
- First Name: Zu
- Last Name: Kote
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 Ford Model T Touring
- Location: San Jose, California
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
Good question. For most Model T's running a stock setup, operating temps tend to stay in the 160–180°F range with water or 50/50 coolant. Over 200°F isn’t necessarily a crisis, but if you’re creeping past 212°F regularly, especially under light load, it’s worth checking for a clogged radiator, timing issues, or poor circulation. These engines don’t have water pumps (unless added aftermarket), so thermosiphon efficiency is key.
Hi there! I'm Zu. It's a pleasure to meet you.
-
Scott_Conger
- Posts: 6670
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:18 am
- First Name: Scott
- Last Name: Conger
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1919
- Location: not near anywhere, WY
- Board Member Since: 2005
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
zukote1991 has joined dozens and dozens of chat rooms in the last week...
what a busy busy little bot you are!
what a busy busy little bot you are!
Scott Conger
Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny
NH Full Flow Float Valves™
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured
Tyranny under the guise of law is still Tyranny
NH Full Flow Float Valves™
Obsolete carburetor parts manufactured
-
Henry K. Lee
- Posts: 5578
- Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:09 am
- First Name: Henry
- Last Name: Lee
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Many
- Location: South Pittsburg, TN
- MTFCA Life Member: YES
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
And the AI Bot will learn from the not so enlighten souls of age and their lack of technology. After they learn they come and take their spoils of war without firing a shot.
They will take from bank accounts, falsify legal documents, ie, titles and the likes there of.
Shut down the site to NON MEMBERS!
They will take from bank accounts, falsify legal documents, ie, titles and the likes there of.
Shut down the site to NON MEMBERS!
-
Dan Hatch
- Posts: 5331
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:31 pm
- First Name: Dan
- Last Name: Hatch
- Location: Alabama
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
Amen brother Hank!!! Shut it down!!!!!
-
JohnM
- Posts: 740
- Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:22 pm
- First Name: John
- Last Name: Michaelree
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Touring 1927 Tudor
- Location: st louis
- Board Member Since: 2010
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
The push back on pure antifreeze is, (as you stated) lowers the boiling point. The T cooling system is not pressureized. Running 180 to slightly over 200 is fine as long as it's NOT BOILING. Most T's will occasionally spit out some coolant after a long hill climb. To put it plainly, cruising on a hot day and it's not boiling but for a gurgle or two from a hill climb or when you first shut it off, you are fine. You don't need to know the precise temperature. You just need to know it is not continually boiling.
-
TRDxB2
- Posts: 6500
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm
- First Name: Frank
- Last Name: Brandi
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedsters (1919 w 1926 upgrades), 1926 (Ricardo Head)
- Location: Moline IL
- Board Member Since: 2018
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
100% antifreeze is counter productive
Choose by your winter freeze
- --
--
Pick your boiling point based on altitude
-- --
For Boiling point in an unpressurized system
At sea level a 50% solution raised the boiling point 14°F. At 4000ft the boiling point is 205°F so raising it 14°F would need just a 33% solution.
-- --
---
So at higher altitudes, where air pressure is lower, the boiling point of water and coolant mixtures can be lower. Then you don't need to use as much antifreeze to achieve the same boiling point elevation as you would at sea level BUT the higher you go the colder the winters are so you need a higher ratio to prtect from freezing like 50/50
Choose by your winter freeze
- --
--
Pick your boiling point based on altitude
-- --
For Boiling point in an unpressurized system
At sea level a 50% solution raised the boiling point 14°F. At 4000ft the boiling point is 205°F so raising it 14°F would need just a 33% solution.
-- --
---
So at higher altitudes, where air pressure is lower, the boiling point of water and coolant mixtures can be lower. Then you don't need to use as much antifreeze to achieve the same boiling point elevation as you would at sea level BUT the higher you go the colder the winters are so you need a higher ratio to prtect from freezing like 50/50
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger
Mick Jagger
-
TXGOAT2
Topic author - Posts: 8251
- Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:08 pm
- First Name: Pat
- Last Name: McNallen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926-7 roadster
- Location: Graham, Texas
- Board Member Since: 2021
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
Modern oil will allow operating at 200 F or so with no issues. Just be sure the system is kept full of coolant. 50/50 water and "green" antifreeze works very well. There is no practical reason not to use it, and use it as directed. Modern type valves are recommended for any Model T being driven on the road. Ford designed the T to run at 180 to 200 + F. With modern oil, there is a wide margin of safety at 200F as far as oil temperature. As long as the cooling system is reasonably clean and kept full of coolant, the engine will be fine at higher temperatures. Ford pointed out that temperatures near boiling gave the most efficient operation.
-
TXGOAT2
Topic author - Posts: 8251
- Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:08 pm
- First Name: Pat
- Last Name: McNallen
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926-7 roadster
- Location: Graham, Texas
- Board Member Since: 2021
Re: Operating Temperature - what is the range?
Fifty-fifty, unless you are touring the Yukon Territory in January.