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Rear spring questions
I want to put new bushings on the rear shackles and hit the leafs with graphite paint. The way I understand it is I have to take the wheels off then the diff off then the springs out. Is there a way I can take the springs out without removing the wheels? And regardless of how I get it out is there anything else I should be inspecting or replacing while I'm there?
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Re: Rear spring questions
You don't need to remove the rear wheels, but you would need to raise the body much higher to relieve all tension on the spring. I would recommend removing the rear wheels. Be sure to have a spring spreader handy to do this job. It makes the task much easier. The bushings are in the spring and perches so having the wheels off will make access to the perches easier.
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Re: Rear spring questions
Has the rear axle ever been taken apart and inspected and rebuilt? Because this would be a good time if you are taking the shackles off.
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Re: Rear spring questions
I have found the easiest way is to pull the wheels & undo the perches from the backing plates. Takes all the tension off.
Seems easier to guide the perches back into the backing plates for reassembly. Work the perches back in with a 2x4 under the spring ends & jack.
Jack with a cradle or a jack on each side. Never under the center pumpkin.
Seems easier to guide the perches back into the backing plates for reassembly. Work the perches back in with a 2x4 under the spring ends & jack.
Jack with a cradle or a jack on each side. Never under the center pumpkin.
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Re: Rear spring questions
This method works like a charm for removing bushings (even getting them in). The socket just needs to fit the ID of the spring & the OD of the bushing.
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Re: Rear spring questions
Here's one version of rear axle removal. Part of it may apply to what you're doing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mZzAt9Q_4
You don't need a spring spreader to remove the shackles. Just loosen the perches enough to relieve the tension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mZzAt9Q_4
You don't need a spring spreader to remove the shackles. Just loosen the perches enough to relieve the tension.
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Re: Rear spring questions
Removing and installing rear axle spring shackles is covered in the Ford Service Manual.
Here is how I jack it up to relieve the spring tension.
Here is how I jack it up to relieve the spring tension.
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Re: Rear spring questions
A bushing driver works nice. You may need to ream the bushing to fit the shackle. I would suggest brass, not a steel bushing.
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Re: Rear spring questions
My rear spring bushings on one side it looks like the spring hole for the bushing is too big as the bushing went in and out with hand force, as in I can pull it out, this would defiantly spin with use, how might I stop it from spinning?
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Re: Rear spring questions
additionally I used the steel bushings, I hear Brass or Bronze ones were original or better, Ill keep that in mind for the future.I like buying from langs but the only bronze bushings i see are some for some part of a ruckstell, Ill have to see where I can get them from in bronze, maybe the other retailers.
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Re: Rear spring questions
Make your own from an over sized bronze bushing.LittleTimmy52 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 03, 2025 7:02 pmMy rear spring bushings on one side it looks like the spring hole for the bushing is too big as the bushing went in and out with hand force, as in I can pull it out, this would defiantly spin with use, how might I stop it from spinning?
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Re: Rear spring questions
Bearing shops here carry bronze bushes to suit. i can buy one with greater wall thickness, so it can be turned down for a custom fit as John suggests. Do you intend to re-fit worn shackles? New replacements may need reaming the bushes to fit.
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