Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
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Russ_Furstnow
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- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:01 am
- First Name: Russ
- Last Name: Furstnow
- * REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1909 Touring, 1911 Torpedo,1913 Touring, 1914 Runabout, 1915 Coupelet, 1916 Coupelet, 1917 Coupelet
- Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
My 1909 Touring has a nasty habit of leaking oil all over the engine bay and undercarriage from the open valve train. Not only is the oil unsightly, but the oil is a pain to clean after just a short drive. To solve the problem, I made a leather valve cover that straps to the engine and the problem is now taken care of!! The leather cover has two folds that hold two absorbant pads, and the pads hold the oil in check. I used a 3/4" leather strap to go around the block to hold the cover in place. The example in the photos will be dyed black tomorrow and will be barely visible when installed. The only bad thing is that I cannot see those eight valves working as the engine is running, but the oil spashing all over the car is a thing of the past! I hope this helps, Russ Furstnow
PS: For the purists out there, I have not installed the Kingston 5 ball on the car yet...but it is soon to be on the car.
PS: For the purists out there, I have not installed the Kingston 5 ball on the car yet...but it is soon to be on the car.
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Rich P. Bingham
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Re: Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
Oh, to have such problems !
Yours is an embarrassment of riches, Russ !
Would you consider posting a photo tour of this wonderful machine ?
Yours is an embarrassment of riches, Russ !
Would you consider posting a photo tour of this wonderful machine ?
Get a horse !
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speedytinc
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Re: Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
Very nice.
Necessity is the muther.........
Necessity is the muther.........
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KimDobbins
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Re: Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
As another option, original accessory valve covers.
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Erik Barrett
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Re: Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
There’s a reason why parts for these early model T’s are rare. Frankly it’s because they suck and got tossed in the garbage as soon as they failed which did not take long. One piece pan? Junked as soon as the dealer had to nearly dismantle the car for a rod knock. Newer pan cost what, maybe $15? Old pan got scrapped. Don’t even get me started on the square hole hogshead. Anyway, the solution to the open valve engine mess is not a diaper. When I build these I put the tappet guides in the lathe and machine a groove for an O-ring at the top end. No more oil slobbering down that side of the block. Learned this from the late Ron Brown, Sr. One of three Rosenthal award winners in our little club.
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Rod
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Re: Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
Russ,
I noticed that your 1909 has a factory water pump which must mean it’s a 2 pedal, 2 lever. Would you mind sharing the engine number?
Thanks,
Rod
I noticed that your 1909 has a factory water pump which must mean it’s a 2 pedal, 2 lever. Would you mind sharing the engine number?
Thanks,
Rod
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Russ_Furstnow
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Re: Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
The car that I own was restored by Mark Cameron. Mark did an amazing job researching and restoring the car. The car won the MTFCI Stynoski Award in 2004, and is one of the most beautiful, and well restored 1909 Fords I have ever seen. I thought Mark would keep the car forever, but he offered it to me at the MTFCI tour in Owatonna. I was very fortunate to purchase the car from Mark in October, and I am enjoying being the car's caretaker. Mark collected many, many blueprints from the Benson Ford in an effort to correctly identify the correct and unique parts used on the first 2500 Model T's. Mark searched many years for the parts to properly restore the car. Mark purchased the engine assembly from the late Chris Eggsgard and the original motor number is #2350. The car number is #1001, and is a three pedal, one lever car.
This is the second 1909 Ford I have owned, and both cars have leaked oil from the valve train. While "o" rings may stop the oil from leaking past the valve lifters, the open valve engines were made to spit oil......so the leather valve cover was made to just keep the car a bit cleaner!!!
Russ Furstnow
This is the second 1909 Ford I have owned, and both cars have leaked oil from the valve train. While "o" rings may stop the oil from leaking past the valve lifters, the open valve engines were made to spit oil......so the leather valve cover was made to just keep the car a bit cleaner!!!
Russ Furstnow
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Russ_Furstnow
Topic author - Posts: 381
- Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:01 am
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- Last Name: Furstnow
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- Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Re: Open Valve Engine Oil Leaks - Problem Solved!
Kim, I heard about those accessory valve covers...very cool!! I hope you use them on your 1909 Ford. Russ