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Rim Identification

Post by RandyM » Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:50 am

I have a ‘23 Touring, I was replacing the tires and I have this rim as a spare. It is not correct for this car and was I wondering if someone knows what it goes to?

Does anyone need this? I am going to order the one I need.
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Re: Rim Identification

Post by CudaMan » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:29 am

It looks to me like a Kelsey 88 rim. It uses a special felloe with four notches and separate lugs.
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Re: Rim Identification

Post by RandyM » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:47 pm

Thanks for the info Mark. What vehicle would it fit?
Now I just need to find someone who could use it.

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Re: Rim Identification

Post by CudaMan » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:33 pm

The last picture in my post lists applications of Model T Ford, Gray, and Maxwell. Here are a few pics of a set of Model T Kelsey wheels that I built up a few years ago, then sold to another member in Texas.
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Re: Rim Identification

Post by RandyM » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:33 pm

WOW. Only $1.50 for rims back then. $399.00 now.

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Re: Rim Identification

Post by Henry K. Lee » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:40 pm

Thank You Mark for the education!

All the Best,

Hank

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Re: Rim Identification

Post by TRDxB2 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:22 pm

I have two Kelsey 88 rims and correct matching fellows available for purchase. One with wood spokes (replace?) and hubs for both. Photo's to follow
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Re: Rim Identification

Post by Allan » Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:07 am

Mark, were the lugs and loose lugs on your re-built wheels new items from the vendors? Well done for them to make them available, though the price is a little daunting.
They appear to be totally machined, and thus are perfect, unlike the originals you show in the photo earlier in your post. I was fortunate to buy a bag of NOS original flanged nuts at Chickasha in 2010. The seller wondered why I wanted them. The original nuts and lugs are stamped out, and thus are quite crude in appearance.

Allan from down under.

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Re: Rim Identification

Post by CudaMan » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:58 am

Yes, I got all of the fasteners on those wheels new from Lang's.
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Re: Rim Identification

Post by Altair » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:37 am

In the day there was about four or five wheel manufactures, I have over a dozen spare wheels and it is difficult to find two that match exactly, however the all fit my T.

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Re: Rim Identification

Post by RajoRacer » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:49 am

Yes, there was David and they were all built to fit the Model T BUT the challenge is marrying the correct rim to the wheel for which it was intended.

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