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Rear Floor Board Question
So we were putting in the rear floor and noticed some holes in the body of the car. I know the ones for the threshold but what are these for? They seem to be under the floor.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Door sills get screwed on the body
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Those are new boards that you cut to replace the old ones?... The boards should cover everything that goes on the inside flange in front of the seat and on the sides. Previous owners on occasion did screw the wood floor board to the body
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
The floor boards are from JP Auto Wood. I bet that someone drilled out holes to hold down the floor. I know the ones where the door is are for the door sills. I'm going to have to beat some metal or trim some wood to make the drivers side fit.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Mopar man... I believe your wood floor strips were not cut wide enough. They do not rest on that inner flange all the way around. I had pictures of my front floor on a 26, the rear floor boards should be wide enough to fit inside the flange all the way around.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Those floorboards are not right. Front floorboards should be 3 pieces, upper, middle, bottom. Boards overlap so no gaps between them even with shrinkage. Front floorboards must fit well so they do not bind up the pedals.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Jeff... I only left the one board on the picture to show that the board rests on the outer flange of the body metal if I put all the boards back in position and took a picture would you really know that they're resting on the flange?..... The board and the picture is a correct one... The board is wide enough to rest on the body flange and also on the flange that goes across the the seat area.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
The front floorboards are made up of random width boards, glued up with tongue and grove joints, and wood splines in the end grain to prevent warping, to make up each of the 3 front floorboards. Dont know why your floorboard builder sent you an unassembled floorboard.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Jeff.... These are not floorboards from a floor board builder... These boards were factory supplied when the car was built. Five boards that are tongue and groove . Ford re-used the wood from shipping cartons that he received and cut the wood to what had to be used in cars such as seat frames and floorboards....... Our present Ford suppliers maybe selling plywood replacements that you are confused with as original style floorboards.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Jeff... Post a picture of your three section floor boards
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Robert,
I spent some time at the Benson Ford Research Center studying the 26-27 floorboard drawings. Here is part of the Ford factory drawing for the lower floorboard assembly called "Front Floor Board #3". It is a one piece fully assembled and painted part before it is installed on the assembly line in the car. Drawing shows the end grain wood splines, steel angle brackets, wood stringers, etc. The factory drawings made in 1925-26, the floorboards were made of random width boards jointed and glued together, in 1927, plywood was added as an acceptable wood. I suspect from your pictures your floorboards are not original Ford. You should see evidence of the 2 wood braces that were nailed to the bottom, evidence of the 3 metal brackets or screw holes, as well as wood splines in the end grain. The middle floorboard called floor board #2 should have a 1" finger hole for removing and installing the floorboards as well as the end grain splines. Floorboard #1 also has end splines but no finger hole. Hope this is helpful to you.
I spent some time at the Benson Ford Research Center studying the 26-27 floorboard drawings. Here is part of the Ford factory drawing for the lower floorboard assembly called "Front Floor Board #3". It is a one piece fully assembled and painted part before it is installed on the assembly line in the car. Drawing shows the end grain wood splines, steel angle brackets, wood stringers, etc. The factory drawings made in 1925-26, the floorboards were made of random width boards jointed and glued together, in 1927, plywood was added as an acceptable wood. I suspect from your pictures your floorboards are not original Ford. You should see evidence of the 2 wood braces that were nailed to the bottom, evidence of the 3 metal brackets or screw holes, as well as wood splines in the end grain. The middle floorboard called floor board #2 should have a 1" finger hole for removing and installing the floorboards as well as the end grain splines. Floorboard #1 also has end splines but no finger hole. Hope this is helpful to you.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Jeff... Since you know so much about your findings from the Ford research center, why don't your rear floorboards fit properly? .....
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
"Jeff... Since you know so much about your findings from the Ford research center, why don't you rear floorboards fit properly? ....."
Robert, I think you have me confused with the other Robert (Mopar-Man), the original poster. However, this is not the first time real hands on research thru Ford factory drawings has been met with hostility and doubt. Use or ignore my findings as you see fit. Hope someone will find it helpful or at least interesting as I do.
Robert, I think you have me confused with the other Robert (Mopar-Man), the original poster. However, this is not the first time real hands on research thru Ford factory drawings has been met with hostility and doubt. Use or ignore my findings as you see fit. Hope someone will find it helpful or at least interesting as I do.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
Jeff... I do not have you confused with Robert Gavoni. Gavoni posted showing rear floor boards that are not wide enough. I posted pictures of front floor boards which were factory issue when the car was built., Showing how they were wide enough and rested in the body flange for support, just as the rear floor boards should fit. I'm sorry I do not have pictures of the rear floorboards, but again they should fit width and lengthwise to be supported by the body floor flange. ... And by the way on the front floor boards where it does angle up , my boards are supported by two metal braces underneath , the same as your Ford research center photo points out.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
.....plus, Jeff, The "finger hole " that you refer is not an aid to remove the boards but rather for the starter switch to come through.
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
I will try to get this thread back to the original questions about the rear floorboard.
I have a 26 Touring. It was a basket case when i started working on it and I made the floorboards out of plywood. There are no holes in the rear side rails of the body except for the ones which are used for the door sills. I made the rear floorboard out of two pieces sawed right down the middle. There is a 1x4 attached to the right hand side at the center. The right 2 inches is attached to the right under side of the plywood. The left side is then free to fit between the side rail and the kick panel and the strip of metal in front of the back seat riser laying on the left side of the 1/4. This side can easily be lifted out to gain access to the battery.
Norm
I have a 26 Touring. It was a basket case when i started working on it and I made the floorboards out of plywood. There are no holes in the rear side rails of the body except for the ones which are used for the door sills. I made the rear floorboard out of two pieces sawed right down the middle. There is a 1x4 attached to the right hand side at the center. The right 2 inches is attached to the right under side of the plywood. The left side is then free to fit between the side rail and the kick panel and the strip of metal in front of the back seat riser laying on the left side of the 1/4. This side can easily be lifted out to gain access to the battery.
Norm
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Re: Rear Floor Board Question
What a mess of a thread. Condolences the OP. 
