Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
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Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Would like to know what make and model is of this car.
Thanks
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
I would say it is a Model 30 Cadillac. I'm guessing an early one maybe 1909 or so. The kick-up in the frame is a notable feature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Model_Thirty
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Model_Thirty
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
The unique steering wheel spider should help ID it. Also the relatively low seating, especially the rear. 10 spoke wood wheels on the front 12 spoke on the rear
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Steering wheel looks like it might be an Auburn BUT ITS NOT ONE
Still searching
Steering wheel looks like it might be an Auburn BUT ITS NOT ONE
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Can you scan it (no camera) and make it a much bigger file? That might reveal some clues that aren't obvious in this tiny size.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Steve I do not have the actual photo. It was sent to me via text and ask if I knew what it was.
I have had two say that it was a Cadillac model 30 .
I have had two say that it was a Cadillac model 30 .
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Besides steering wheel and spokes, rear fender and door handleSteve Jelf wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:31 pmCan you scan it (no camera) and make it a much bigger file? That might reveal some clues that aren't obvious in this tiny size.
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Frank, I wouldn't bank on an Auburn going on the information given on the photo. They can't spell Auburn, they don't know coupe from a roadster, and can't spell coupe either.
That steering wheel certainly looks similar though.
Allan from down under.

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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Agree its NOT an Auburn. I corrected the image so its no part of further discussions
I found several cars with the 10/12 spokes, some with the steering wheel , 1 or 2 with the door handle and some Tourings with flat rear fenders, and some short side wall but none with more than 2 of those matching items.
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Appears to be a Chalmers 30 miniature tonneau. Pretty sure it's an 11. I had an 11 touring. I regret selling it
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Here's the other one blown up. What is the thing between the front wheel and the edge of the picture?
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
I think Brian nailed it. Here are some pictures of a 1910 Chalmers I found on the internet.
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
It's a 1910 Chalmers-Detroit "Forty" Pony Tonneau.
Refer to this catalog:
https://www.chuckstoyland.com/category/ ... roit-1910/
I couldn't find a period photo of a Pony Tonneau but I did find some of a Roadster. The difference between the Pony Tonneau and the Roadster is the rear seat.
https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A199875
https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A199929
https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A196986
If you scroll down on this page, you will see two Roadsters:
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2010/1 ... s-chalmers
The Fountainhead museum has a 1910 Chalmers-Detroit Roadster but it has a brass radiator and later headlamps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZxLIHsE5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpT0-Q0VFQA
Refer to this catalog:
https://www.chuckstoyland.com/category/ ... roit-1910/
I couldn't find a period photo of a Pony Tonneau but I did find some of a Roadster. The difference between the Pony Tonneau and the Roadster is the rear seat.
https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A199875
https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A199929
https://digitalcollections.detroitpubli ... a%3A196986
If you scroll down on this page, you will see two Roadsters:
https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2010/1 ... s-chalmers
The Fountainhead museum has a 1910 Chalmers-Detroit Roadster but it has a brass radiator and later headlamps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZZxLIHsE5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpT0-Q0VFQA
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Geeze Louise....
I was composing my epic post above while someone else posted the correct answer.
If you do pull up the catalog I referenced, you'll see that it is a Pony Tonneau.
I was composing my epic post above while someone else posted the correct answer.
If you do pull up the catalog I referenced, you'll see that it is a Pony Tonneau.
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Looks like a match to most every unique indictor - even the slant of the door handle. The questionable items could be accessories, photo perspective - whatever. I think that the "what's that to the right of the photo" may be caused by the reflect in t he brass headlamp
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Thanks to all the great response. It is much appreciated!!!
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Steve , I think the sidelights and headlights are covered in canvas bags.Steve Jelf wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:33 pmfile.png
Here's the other one blown up. What is the thing between the front wheel and the edge of the picture?
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Thanks for mentioning Chalmers. I stand corrected. So many features look similar.
Always learning.
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Always learning.
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Re: Not Model T but would really like help identifying this car
Here is a scanned copy( as requested by Steve) of the Car with much clearer details .