Timer identification and lubrication request

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Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by WillsT » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:26 pm

After removing my radiator for some needy cleaning I am using the opportunity to inspect my timer and lube as needed
As a newby I am unable to identify what timer this is and therefor not sure about lubrication
The car starts great first time all the time so don’t want to mess with it, just clean and lube
Did find that the ground wire was missing so glad I did this
Here are pics, thanks
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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by Scott_Conger » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:38 pm

That's an Anderson (ANCO) which is a very reliable timer. Just a wipe with a rag and a very small amount of white grease on the contacts and flapper is all I do. Usually goes a thousand miles or so before it needs cleaning again. It is probably the only place I ever use white grease...

Like everything in life, if you look closely enough at something, there will be something to pick apart and if that is the case, this timer is probably the most prone to inter-cylinder mis-timing than any other out there. They can be fiddled with and "tuned" for very accurate firing but I have frankly never had one that made me want to mess with it...put a good one on and maybe never replace it...

there is no need for a ground wire with respect to anything on the timer...if you meant the battery, then I misunderstood...

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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by TRDxB2 » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:39 pm

Looks like ANCO (one of the best)
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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by Chris Instness » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:43 pm

Will,
Here is an old thread discussing Anderson Timers. The original post was written by Terry Horlick who appears to be from your neck of the woods.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/59 ... 1471968028


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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by TXGOAT2 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:15 am

The ground wire may not be original to the timer. It is not needed, since the coil current is grounded through the timer rotor and the engine camshaft when the timer contacts are closed. It is important that the wiring and terminal connections to the timer be in good condition. Worn insulation and frayed copper wire conductors at the terminals will degrade engine performance.


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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by WillsT » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:52 am

Thanks guys, is there a need to replace seal, does not look like it is leaking today.


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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by TXGOAT2 » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:55 am

I'd leave the seal alone if it looks all right. Slight oil leakage will not harm the timer.

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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by Mark Nunn » Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:02 am

Will, post more photos of your Roadster pickup. I'm sure that I am not the only one who would like to see it.


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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by Stephen_heatherly » Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:21 am

I would replace that wire loom. The insulation is damaged. When the bare wire touches ground you get a back fire which can damage your starter or your arm if hand cranking.

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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by Norman Kling » Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:42 am

The Anderson timer is correctly timed when it is manufactured. Be careful not to loosen the studs closest nut to the body of the timer and they will stay in time. It is my second choice to the original New Day. Those New day are the one with the brown cap. I understand that maybe the latest version of New Day is good too.
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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by jiminbartow » Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:43 pm

Am I correct in noting that white lithium grease is conductive, so is not suitable to use on roller type Model T timers, since the four contacts are mounted on a continuous track inside the cup that may allow the grease to connect the contacts by spreading across the spaces between the contacts causing the contacts to all fire at once?

Of course on the Anderson timer featured in this thread, using white lithium grease is okay because there is a clear space between each contact that will not enable the grease to span the space between the contacts. I use Vaseline in many lubricating applications on my T. It is clean and non-conductive. Jim Patrick


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Re: Timer identification and lubrication request

Post by WillsT » Wed Jun 08, 2022 8:53 pm

As requested here are some pics
It was built by Vic Groah some 25 years ago
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