Hogsheads retrieval toll for the simple minded!

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Hogsheads retrieval toll for the simple minded!

Post by Flyingpiper59 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:23 pm

I thought I would share this tool that I came up with…. perhaps it’s been done I don’t know.
So, in spite of all the dire warnings about not dropping things down the Hogshead during removal…. and trying to be extremely careful…..
You guessed it, a washer slipped out of my hand, much to my and chagrin… down slope, and under the fly wheel and magneto….Purchased a 24” flexible, mechanical pick up tool… put a small round, magnet in the fingers….and done first pass…. it hugs the bottom wall of the hogs head if you push it down from the side…. I heard the washer click onto the magnet, and felt it also before I had pulled the cable back up and a side to side motion in about 4 inches of travel.

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Re: Hogsheads retrieval toll for the simple minded!

Post by Art M » Sat Jun 17, 2023 3:49 pm

I sure it or something similar has been done. I haven't tried tried my proposed method yet, but here it is.
Drill a hole into the nut and into the washer, then thread a string into each. Install the washer and nut. Start the nut by several turns onto the shaft, then remove the string.
Reverse this procedure when removing the pieces.

I didn't think of this until after I changed the band lining last spring. I think it will work, but I would still use rags a a backup.

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Re: Hogsheads retrieval toll for the simple minded!

Post by John kuehn » Sat Jun 17, 2023 4:38 pm

Before even thinking of starting to remove the transmission cover bolts remove the access cover then STUFF RAGS DOWN INSIDE THE TRANSMISSION ALL THE WAY AROUND!

Then carefully remove the nuts, washers and pedal shaft. Unbolt the transmission cover and lift it off. The stuff rags step has saved many hours when working on replacing the band or cover removal.

But things can still get passed the rags and using a piece of thin sheet metal with grease directly under the band nuts will help too as the grease would keep the nut from sliding down, Maybe.
I’ve always about the Ford T service shops did when this happened. And I wonder what Joe did if he dropped something!
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Re: Hogsheads retrieval toll for the simple minded!

Post by Allan » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:38 pm

When fitting a hogshead, I have the washer and nut already on the pedal shift. Just wind the nut on two or three threads to hold it there. Then there is no chance of dropping either into the innards.
Hope this helps,
Allan from down under.


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Re: Hogsheads retrieval toll for the simple minded!

Post by John kuehn » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:33 am

Good point Allan. I’ll bet the guys on Ford’s Model T assembly lines knew that trick and lot of others to get the T’s quickly off the line. Ford knew that getting the sub assemblies perfected was the thing that would speed up production.
Getting the transmission cover and the band on the engine was undoubtedly one of the assemblies he perfected.


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Re: Hogsheads retrieval toll for the simple minded!

Post by nicklm » Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:51 am

I have thought that there is a way when removing the transmission cover to make an attachment to be like a tag to go on one of the bolts next to the lock washer large enough to have printing. A message to say, "REMOVE KEYS" plus "FILL CAVITY WITH RAGS", on the tag. It can be added to the bolts that hold down the cover as a reminder. If that is too much trouble, even a sticker with the words on it.
A little reminder could save a lot of time/energy.

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