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batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:03 pm

Does anyone want to share photos and/or descriptions/ideas of their having added a battery to a brass car?


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by Dodge » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:43 pm

I have two with batteries underneath the back seat and another with the battery in a period accesary running board box on the running board.
and a third one I put a later battery carrier in.

The location and size would be dermined on what you are using the battery for. If its for starting the car you would need a larger battery
either in a stock later battery carrier or on the running board.

My 2 cents

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Re: batteries for brass

Post by RajoRacer » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:48 pm

I'm no purist so I installed a stock Ford battery carrier from a starter car in our '14 Touring where it would have been from the factory!


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:04 pm

Dodge wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:43 pm
I have two with batteries underneath the back seat and another with the battery in a period accesary running board box on the running board.
and a third one I put a later battery carrier in.

The location and size would be dermined on what you are using the battery for. If its for starting the car you would need a larger battery
either in a stock later battery carrier or on the running board.

My 2 cents
Im just going to energize the coils for startup and run a couple led lights, charge from an external source


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:05 pm

RajoRacer wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:48 pm
I'm no purist so I installed a stock Ford battery carrier from a starter car in our '14 Touring where it would have been from the factory!
That's a good idea, Im gonna look into that.

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Re: batteries for brass

Post by CudaMan » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:12 pm

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Re: batteries for brass

Post by RecklessKelly » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:18 pm

You can get a small AGM motorcycle battery on ebay for about $30.00 and mount it flatwise under the running board with two straps bent out of flat stock or sheet metal. If you have step plates, utilize those mounting holes for the straps. You can get a charger receptacle with ring tongue terminals to make charging easy for $8.00.


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by Allan » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:27 pm

I have a 14 amphour sealed battery in my 1912 van to power the Truefire ignition and the inidcators and brake lights. I get two days of city driving before I have to recharge it It is mounted on its base in a wooden compartment in the cabin between the end of the fuel tank and the body sides.

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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ABoer » Thu Mar 20, 2025 4:57 am

Vincent , On our 1912 We did it the same way as the later ones.
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Re: batteries for brass

Post by Loftfield » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:30 am

I installed a carrier in the frame from a later car. I don't like the look but one has to get under the car to see it. Perhaps another query is what sort of battery is used? My battery is for hand crank starting and to run LED brake and turn signals, so I used a 12v marine deep cycle battery (Wouldn't fit under the back seat). Lithium batteries will fit in small places but there are just too many incidents of these devices creating monster fires, don''t want to incinerate a 1912 Model T, or my garage.

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Re: batteries for brass

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:03 am

The inevitable often happens.
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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:32 pm

Loftfield wrote:
Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:30 am
I installed a carrier in the frame from a later car. I don't like the look but one has to get under the car to see it. Perhaps another query is what sort of battery is used? My battery is for hand crank starting and to run LED brake and turn signals, so I used a 12v marine deep cycle battery (Wouldn't fit under the back seat). Lithium batteries will fit in small places but there are just too many incidents of these devices creating monster fires, don''t want to incinerate a 1912 Model T, or my garage.
Thomas, Im doing the same thing. I settled on a small sealed battery for a kids Power Wheels. Now to lay out the wiring in a convincing way to resemble an era upgrade (except the modern battery and leds)
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Re: batteries for brass

Post by AndyClary » Mon Mar 31, 2025 8:05 pm

My battery is in the same place as Vincent’s in my 14 runabout. I use a motorcycle battery, charge it when I think about it, lasts a couple years. It’s 12 volts so it can be pretty dead and still rattle the coils. I switch to mag right away so it’s never been a problem.

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Re: batteries for brass

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:02 pm

Have you ever inflated a clincher tire to 70 psi by hand? I have, just to see if I could. You probably wouldn't want to do it every time you had to change a tire. I sure don't. After trying different types of battery in my 1915, I finally settled on a full-size 12 volt car battery that would easily handle a modern 12 volt HF tire pump. A 6 volt battery, or a compact 12 volt, would have been fully adequate to fire the coils for starting, and for various LED's. But I had more than enough of inconvenient ways of inflating tires. A modern tire pump and a 12 volt battery big enough to handle it were the solution that allowed me to take off on a trip of a thousand miles or more with no tire-changing worries. And keeping the battery charged with magneto current is laughably easy.
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Re: batteries for brass

Post by Colin Mavins » Mon Mar 31, 2025 9:09 pm

I have a small 12 volt car battery under the back seat it sits in a wood box open top and it runs lights turn signals brake light 2 horns and is used to start the car on battery. One small hole to run the wires under the car. my car is a 1912 touring


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Mon Mar 31, 2025 10:21 pm

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In this drawing where is the light for brakes, has anyone seen that in the wild? I might try to do something like that on my ‘13. I have a fixture but it’s just the tail light/ plate light. Separate fixture?

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Re: batteries for brass

Post by TRDxB2 » Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:15 am

The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:37 am

TRDxB2 wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:15 am
Being authentic non-starter setup
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1391269200
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Awesome!


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by frontyboy » Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:13 am

Some of the electrical was done before I purchased my 1915 Gallivan twin ohc engine with now 8.5 to one compression I will explain how it is now with my modifications.

The gas tank was removed from under the seat, and a new larger tank was fabricated to take up most of the area in the turtle deck. A false floor under the seat with a wood battery box was fabricated flush with the floor. A 12volt battery was installed. I fabricated battery cables using fine strand copper welding cable and soldered terminals. I added a marine battery cut off switch. Prior to me a small 12volt import alternator was added belt driven.
With 8.5 compression ratio now it is nearly impossible to try and crank. I lowered have lowered the compression from 12.5 to 8.5 and still could not crank start. I use a stock T starter and have been doing so for over 20+ years with no ill effects.

For you purists I salute you, I've been there with several either real barn fresh or 100 point cars but now for me I prefer loud and fast. Thats what I have with a nearly 100 hp model t. I enjoy touring and meeting with all model t owners. Just don't shun those that don't follow the just the way Henry did it.
just sayin'
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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:19 pm

frontyboy wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:13 am
Some of the electrical was done before I purchased my 1915 Gallivan twin ohc engine with now 8.5 to one compression I will explain how it is now with my modifications.

The gas tank was removed from under the seat, and a new larger tank was fabricated to take up most of the area in the turtle deck. A false floor under the seat with a wood battery box was fabricated flush with the floor. A 12volt battery was installed. I fabricated battery cables using fine strand copper welding cable and soldered terminals. I added a marine battery cut off switch. Prior to me a small 12volt import alternator was added belt driven.
With 8.5 compression ratio now it is nearly impossible to try and crank. I lowered have lowered the compression from 12.5 to 8.5 and still could not crank start. I use a stock T starter and have been doing so for over 20+ years with no ill effects.

For you purists I salute you, I've been there with several either real barn fresh or 100 point cars but now for me I prefer loud and fast. Thats what I have with a nearly 100 hp model t. I enjoy touring and meeting with all model t owners. Just don't shun those that don't follow the just the way Henry did it.
just sayin'
frontyboy.
Sounds awesome thanks for posting


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by Original Smith » Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:49 pm

I'm using 12volt batteries in both of my '13s that are about the size of a Model T coil. They are rechargeable too.


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Re: batteries for brass

Post by ryanpad » Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:17 pm

Original Smith wrote:
Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:49 pm
I'm using 12volt batteries in both of my '13s that are about the size of a Model T coil. They are rechargeable too.
I ended up with a 12v for a power wheels kids car. Running wire soon.

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