WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

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WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by old_charley » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:40 pm

I'm putting together a transmission and wishing to use a 1925 (narrow) brake drum with clutch disc lug shoes. I've found the bolt spacing for the drive plate is 1/8" less on this drum than earlier narrow brake drums. I'm in need of the drive plate/output shaft to mate with this drum. As accurately as I can measure, the bolt spacing 180 degrees across the drum is 6 11/16" on my '25 drum and 6 13/16" on the earlier ones. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by AZTerry » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:13 pm

Hello Brian,

See attached service bulletin. You just need to modify your existing drive plate.

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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by speedytinc » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:10 pm

Terry is correct about modifying an early drive plate. Chances of finding the correct plate are slim & none.
Increase the counterbore for the bolt heads to get wrench/socket clearance also or use allen bolts.
The same bolt pattern modification can be done to use an early drive plate on a wide drum & carefully machining the O.D. also.


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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by Karl Von Neumann » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:51 pm

I can look thru my stash I may have one
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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by Karl Von Neumann » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:58 pm

First one I grabbed measures 6 11/16 across the pattern
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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by speedytinc » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:02 pm

Karl Von Neumann wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:58 pm
First one I grabbed measures 6 11/16 across the pattern
Thats not what he is looking for. What you have is for a wide drum.
Put it on your narrow drum & notice the OD is too small. The OD should be the same as the drum band surface.


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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by Allan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:37 am

I might be just as easy to use a 26-7 wide brake drum and its matching drive plate. I believe there is no need for any modifications to run this combo in a three dip pan. You can't run a wide band on it though. However the narrow band will like the job because it gets to run on a single drum surface rather than the two piece drive surface provided by the narrow drum and its often mismatched OD on the drive plate.
Hope this helps Bryan.
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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by Kenny Edmondson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:21 am

I recently had the same issue on an engine I was building as a spare. I needed a good clutch/brake drum so I used one I’d been saving with the replaceable lugs. I wasn’t aware of the bulletin, but after assessing the surprising issue I milled out the inner side of the holes and it bolted up perfectly.
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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by old_charley » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:16 am

Thanks to all of you for your responses. I figured there was a "snowball's chance in hell" of finding one but it was worth a shot. I considered modifying the holes but questioned the wisdom of doing that. Glad to hear Ford recommended it and that it works. Karl, I appreciate you looking through your stash. Thanks again everyone.


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Re: WTB Drive Plate for 1925 Brake Drum With lugs

Post by Karl Von Neumann » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:25 am

old_charley wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:16 am
Thanks to all of you for your responses. I figured there was a "snowball's chance in hell" of finding one but it was worth a shot. I considered modifying the holes but questioned the wisdom of doing that. Glad to hear Ford recommended it and that it works. Karl, I appreciate you looking through your stash. Thanks again everyone.
I have like 10 or 15 more I guess I misunderstood what the difference was I still may have one
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